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Sam Altman is not on YC's board. So why claim to be its chair?

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Re: Sam Altman is not on YC's board. So why claim to be its chair?

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Post by navigate8310 »

lilbaby wrote: post #113

Reading this comment section, I'm realising that smart people in tech are still just people. They love to gossip, shit-talk about others, prop up cartoon villains to hate on. I'm a big fan of sama. It's been said he's a snake. I hope he is. And he will do things you will hate and be successful doing it. And in doing so, will teach you a priceless lesson. DGAF about other people. Be yourself, look out for yourself and…

You put together perfectly. Haters don't realize sama actually put together something tangible and believable while others either berated looked down upon each other or fried their brain theorizing transformers.

Re: Sam Altman is not on YC's board. So why claim to be its chair?

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Post by bamboozled »

drcode wrote: post #63
bamboozled wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I get the sentiment, things have a way of working out. Maybe he is actually the best person to do it...no one knows who the best person for an undefined situation will be.

There is no "plot armor" in the real world, protecting humans from having bad things happening Things do not, in fact, have a way of "working out" If we don't want bad things to happen, we have to actively stop bad things from happening

Who do you think should run OpenAI then?

Re: Sam Altman is not on YC's board. So why claim to be its chair?

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Post by triblemaster »

s1artibartfast wrote: post #93
fsckboy wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But it's not material. the corporation President, VP, Secretary, Treasurer, and Board of Directors and Chairman are legally defined titles, they are material titles, they imply fiduciary duty, loyalty, etc. (CEO isn't really a thing, it was made up to point out whether the President or Chairman wielded the ultimate power in situations where the largest shareholder might be more active than passive)

Materiality depend on the question at hand.

SEC filings would be enough for materiality one would assume.

Re: Sam Altman is not on YC's board. So why claim to be its chair?

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Post by dylan604 »

gexla wrote: post #130
dylan604 wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And? That's the company and not him as far as what iDevice users will care about. Again, even if they bother to learn the name of the company that makes chatgpt. Hell, they might even think that is the name of the company and not the product. I don't really understand your point

The upstream comment I was replying to mentioned that SAMA destroyed public trust. If this were the case, then what he had done might be enough for a massive company like Apple to hesitate on making such a deal. And there are alternative routes Apple could have taken (maybe not as good as GPT4, but close in a fast moving space.) It's true that users may not know who the company is (let alone know about SAMA) - but he…

But Apple's deal with OpenAI is superficial at best. It's not their entire approach to AI. You can use Apple Intelligence and not once submit something to ChatGPT. To me, that means that they are only using OpenAI as a crutch until they've improved to make it no longer necessary and/or gives them an option to swap out which ever 3rd party model is the new hotness. It's less embedded than having Google be the default search engine as ChatGPT isn't the default AI model and is absolutely opt-in with a warning message stronger than any data sharing message from anything they've offered.

Re: Sam Altman is not on YC's board. So why claim to be its chair?

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Post by CRConrad »

yreg wrote: post #25
dmitrygr wrote: post #12

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> I am not sure what the news is The news is that lying on those filings is a federal crime and can lead to jail time (for normal people who are actually subject to law).

People don't go to jail for errors like these.

> People don't go to jail for errors like these.

Yeah, probably not. The problem is that they should.

The other problem is that people say stuff like "People don't go to jail for errors like these" as if that weren't a problem.

Re: Sam Altman is not on YC's board. So why claim to be its chair?

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Post by CRConrad »

yreg wrote: post #118
tensility wrote: post #32

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Normal folks get fired for "mistakes" like this. Oligarchs don't.

Pretty big difference between getting fired and getting jail time, ain't it? Still, I doubt anyone is getting fired over this. And the document was not written by an oligarch, lol.

> And the document was not written by an oligarch, lol.

No, only about one, in order to pump up his career, and AIUI signed by him. "lol hahaha"

Re: Sam Altman is not on YC's board. So why claim to be its chair?

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Post by lioeters »

n4r9 wrote: post #129
cynusx wrote: post #111

The media obsession with Sam Altman reminds me of the old dutch saying 'high trees capture a lot of wind' (hoge bomen vangen veel wind) I suppose that's why many HNWI individuals consciously stay below the radar.

In Aus and NZ this is known as "cutting down the tall poppy": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tall_poppy_syndrome

In Japan it goes, "The nail that sticks out gets hammered."

(Well not a metal "nail", but a wooden post.)

Re: Sam Altman is not on YC's board. So why claim to be its chair?

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Post by CRConrad »

lilbaby wrote: post #113

Reading this comment section, I'm realising that smart people in tech are still just people. They love to gossip, shit-talk about others, prop up cartoon villains to hate on. I'm a big fan of sama. It's been said he's a snake. I hope he is. And he will do things you will hate and be successful doing it. And in doing so, will teach you a priceless lesson. DGAF about other people. Be yourself, look out for yourself and…

It's not Ok to be an asshole or a snake. You calling that "character" doesn't help; assholes and snakes are not OK characters to be.

(And I think in order not to be able to grasp that, one would have to be an asshole or a snake oneself.)

Re: Sam Altman is not on YC's board. So why claim to be its chair?

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Post by CRConrad »

fragmede wrote: post #68
drcode wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no "plot armor" in the real world, protecting humans from having bad things happening Things do not, in fact, have a way of "working out" If we don't want bad things to happen, we have to actively stop bad things from happening

Depends on how rich you are.

Problem is, the "bad things" the rich want to stop from happening are usually what the rest of us are doing to stop bad things from happening...
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