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EU to greenlight Chat Control tomorrow

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Re: EU to greenlight Chat Control tomorrow

#51

Signal Foundation has already said they would leave the EU if Chat Control goes ahead. https://mastodon.world/@Mer__edith/112535616774247450

Signal isn't big enough to play that game. They'll just be blocked from the app store for EU users and their user base in the EU will drop to near zero within a year.

You think 99.99% of Signal users are all in the EU?

Re: EU to greenlight Chat Control tomorrow

#52
post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can be against these changes without immediately bending over for megacorps.

Certainly. Although megacorps at least still have some incentives to compete with each other and therefore try to appease the consumers. Unfortunately the EU does not.

There isn’t much incentive for them to compete. They have demonstrated numerous times they would gladly work together and not compete openly if it were entirely legal. Non compete clauses are an example of this. Additionally, as we’ve seen with asbestos & lead use in personal care and beauty products after it was demonstrated to be horribly toxic, many corporations would gladly even kill their own customers as long as they got paid first.

That is to say, megacorps have way too much power and access and this must be globally curtailed. To achieve such a goal the EU cannot be going forward with these changes that put more power into the hands of megacorps who will have no problem complying, as they do in China.

Re: EU to greenlight Chat Control tomorrow

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post #36
post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Signal, unwilling to implement easy to build software to comply with EU regulations, likely due to fiscal concerns, has shown itself placing profit far above the care and concerns of our next generation, our children, and the pedophiles that prey upon them, such heinous creators of child porn." signed EU press release. And so, 96% of people now think Signal is evil.

> And so, 96% of people now think Signal is evil. The overwhelming majority of people living in the EU won't really care or even notice this new law/directive/(?) because they don't really pay any attention to what the EU is doing but yeah for most of of the remaining ones that will probably suffice.

Quoted in major tech press first, and then in non-tech press if the case becomes prominent enough to get to national news, would have a serious poisoning effect.

Re: EU to greenlight Chat Control tomorrow

#55

Signal Foundation has already said they would leave the EU if Chat Control goes ahead. https://mastodon.world/@Mer__edith/112535616774247450

Signal isn't big enough to play that game. They'll just be blocked from the app store for EU users and their user base in the EU will drop to near zero within a year.

I think it would be feasible for Whatsapp, Telegram and Signal to form a coalition that pledges to withdraw from any country or market that tries to pull these shenanigans, such that the sum of them is big enough to play that game.

The hardest to convince would be Whatsapp, but I think that Zuckerberg is one of the few big tech CEOs that still has principles, at least sometimes. I think it could happen.

Re: EU to greenlight Chat Control tomorrow

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post #4

This is why the roles of the major players in society (government, monopolies) need to be circumscribed. Large organizations will always try to grow in size and power. We need some sort of human right for digital privacy to make this sort of thing illegal.

Circumscribed by whom? The government is notoriously bad at stopping itself from abusing power.
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