Israel airport security demands access to tourists' private email accounts
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Re: Israel airport security demands access to tourists' private email accounts
#2Before any kind of Israel bashing starts, I want to say that unless you have lived under constant threat to your life like nearly all Israelis have during some point of their life, you cannot really grasp the lengths you will go to to preserve your life and the lives of your family.
Nonetheless, this does seem a little overboard. From having personally been grilled by Israeli airport security, I can say that they are very thorough. I doubt they really need this intrusion to determine if someone is a threat, as it is easier for them to just not grant access, but I suppose if someone really needed to get into the country they could be willing to divulge the information.
Security, in any form, is annoying. Implement two-factor on your gmail account, and it will occasionally annoy you when you have to dig out your phone for the code, and that's just to protect your email from prying eyes! What if you had to legitimately protect your life and the lives of your family? What kind of inconvenience would you accept for that protection?
(Edit) Why is this downvoted? What did I say that did not add to the conversation? Just because you disagree with me? That's rather childish. I think my point is rather poignant, that security is a necessary evil, and that for some it is more necessary than others.
Re: Israel airport security demands access to tourists' private email accounts
#3couldn't you just give a bogus email account, like an old hotmail account? It has my real name, and probably plenty of spam waiting to be opened, but that is about it. If airport security says anything against it I can simply say that I do not use email that often.
Am I being too naive?
Re: Israel airport security demands access to tourists' private email accounts
#4Before any kind of Israel bashing starts, I want to say that unless you have lived under constant threat to your life like nearly all Israelis have during some point of their life, you cannot really grasp the lengths you will go to to preserve your life and the lives of your family. Nonetheless, this does seem a little overboard. From having personally been grilled by Israeli airport security, I can say that they are…
> "you cannot really grasp the lengths you will go to to preserve your life and the lives of your family"
This justifies things... how?
Not to mention that imminent danger has been the mother of a huge number of evils in our time, and since time immemorial.
Re: Israel airport security demands access to tourists' private email accounts
#5couldn't you just give a bogus email account, like an old hotmail account? It has my real name, and probably plenty of spam waiting to be opened, but that is about it. If airport security says anything against it I can simply say that I do not use email that often. Am I being too naive?
Well, the penalty for disallowing access seems to be a refusal to allow you into the country. I imagine that giving access to a legitimate but old and useless e-mail address would be taken as a refusal, and you'd just get back on your plane and go home.
Re: Israel airport security demands access to tourists' private email accounts
#6couldn't you just give a bogus email account, like an old hotmail account? It has my real name, and probably plenty of spam waiting to be opened, but that is about it. If airport security says anything against it I can simply say that I do not use email that often. Am I being too naive?
Well, the penalty for disallowing access seems to be a refusal to allow you into the country. I imagine that giving access to a legitimate but old and useless e-mail address would be taken as a refusal, and you'd just get back on your plane and go home.
It appears that even giving them your real email account will get you refused from the country.
As a US citizen, I'm disappointed in Israel, and would prefer even less of my tax dollars are used to support them after this.
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#7couldn't you just give a bogus email account, like an old hotmail account? It has my real name, and probably plenty of spam waiting to be opened, but that is about it. If airport security says anything against it I can simply say that I do not use email that often. Am I being too naive?
Well, the penalty for disallowing access seems to be a refusal to allow you into the country. I imagine that giving access to a legitimate but old and useless e-mail address would be taken as a refusal, and you'd just get back on your plane and go home.
but then, how might they know that I have other personal accounts? Are they going to put on a lie detector and ask me if I have a gmail account?
Re: Israel airport security demands access to tourists' private email accounts
#8They may have more and better reasons than most to be obnoxious in airport security, but this measure is nothing more than security theater (or worse,) yet again.
Now that this measure is public, any terrorist worth his salt will prepare a plausible and innocent looking email account.
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#9No real content in the article for non-subscribers.
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Re: Israel airport security demands access to tourists' private email accounts
#10Before any kind of Israel bashing starts, I want to say that unless you have lived under constant threat to your life like nearly all Israelis have during some point of their life, you cannot really grasp the lengths you will go to to preserve your life and the lives of your family. Nonetheless, this does seem a little overboard. From having personally been grilled by Israeli airport security, I can say that they are…
Unless you're a grossly incompetent terrorist, searching through your email isn't going to help you determine how much of a threat you are.
Israel can continue what they're doing, but without any US policy or financial support if they continue to do so towards US citizens/legal residents.