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DJI ban passes the House and moves on to the Senate

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Re: DJI ban passes the House and moves on to the Senate

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While the cheaper 3D printers are mostly chinese, Prusa is still a non-chinese option :)

While this is true and I own a Prusa MK4, they're so behind it's not even funny.

This is true, they'd gotten too complacent and now Bambu is eating their lunch.

Re: DJI ban passes the House and moves on to the Senate

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They could put anybody who assembles those parts into a drone into prison. Of course it would still be technically feasible to make one anyway, just as it's technically feasible to make an autosear, or for that matter a whole gun. Doesn't mean it can't be banned.

If they weren't able to stop people from growing and distributing marijuana then I doubt they'll be able to stop this.

It takes minimal skills or effort to grow pot.

This is closer to banning moonshine which was arguably fairly effective.

Re: DJI ban passes the House and moves on to the Senate

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Be thankful that consumer/hobbyist drones haven't been banned entirely already (banning other model aircraft along with them as collateral damage). Especially after all the footage of essentially-hobby-grade drones with familiar open-source flight controller software being turned into very effective weapons of war in Ukraine.

Would turning drones into arms not make them more, rather than less, protected in the US?

Explosive drones would be a destructive device. I don't know about drone mounted firearms though.

Re: DJI ban passes the House and moves on to the Senate

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Be thankful that consumer/hobbyist drones haven't been banned entirely already (banning other model aircraft along with them as collateral damage). Especially after all the footage of essentially-hobby-grade drones with familiar open-source flight controller software being turned into very effective weapons of war in Ukraine.

Would turning drones into arms not make them more, rather than less, protected in the US?

No

Re: DJI ban passes the House and moves on to the Senate

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Off the top of my head as a non-European: GDPR, 2-year warranties and other consumer protection laws

Oh, those pesky consumers getting in the way of the innovation of the free market with their protections. If only they could be fully exploited for maximum value extraction without interference.

That's exactly what I think when I read one of these "EU stifles innovation" comments. It sounds to me like the equivalent of not wanting socialized healthcare because "the poors" might get it, not caring about the fact that you're the one who will benefit.

This is the "everyone in the US is a temporarily embarrassed millionaire" of consumer rights. Everyone in the US is a temporarily embarrassed capitalist overlord.

Re: DJI ban passes the House and moves on to the Senate

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Who decided it is a good idea to pass brands / companies specific bills? If DJI is doing nasty things, prohibit the nasty things DJI doing in the law, not the brand. Then condemn DJI if needed. How do this law protect from any DJi competitor doing the same stuff (or even a spinoff company through a complex scheme)?

Maybe Elise Stefanik was just really upset that she had to side-load the sketchy DJI APK on her Android device?

Re: DJI ban passes the House and moves on to the Senate

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They have Skydio for that. There is no profit in consumer-oriented drones. The money is in lower volume professional & semi-professional use drones. You cannot compete with China even if we annexed Mexico for cheap labor in order to manufacture high volume low profit drones.

I have the last consumer Skydio model, and I'm thinking of selling it to buy a DJI. Skydio has way more intelligence, but the camera quality just isn't there. Footage is ok for social media and that's about it.

This is why Western drone startups keep failing against DJI. The consumer and prosumer drone market do not want AI-driven flying autonomous robots. They want high-quality cameras that can fly.

When the Western drone startups fail at that they will turn to AI, agriculture, LIDAR/mapping etc. But all the money is in the consumer/prosumer market where DJI is earning billions every year which also makes them able to outspend competitors in the professional drone markets.

Re: DJI ban passes the House and moves on to the Senate

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God I'm glad I'm not the only one. I'm working on getting a newsletter up and running and I'm so focused on best writing practices and these guys can't even remember to define their acronyms first?

> and these guys can't even remember to define their acronyms first? DJI is not an acronym, it's the name of a company. And DJI is the most famous drone company; asking to "define DJI", on an article for a site about drones like that one, would be like asking to "define Boeing" on an article for a site about airplanes.

Boeing is a word that looks like a proper noun and, more importantly, is a much more well-known company than DJI. Moreover, for those of us who don't know it's a company, DJI looks like an acronym, so the writer should have clarified, aka defined it.

Re: DJI ban passes the House and moves on to the Senate

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US is spiralling down and I feel like I am in a Truman Show with egregious presidential behaviours, dragging the world into wars which it doesn't need, banning chips, even sanctioning open source (RISC) software. And this is further making the rest of the world enraged, china more so. Today they released Open source Deep Seek which beats GPT 4o in coding problems. The train has left the station and the US is stuck. O…

Haha sure. Let me guess, the train is to a third tier Chinese city no one is interesting in going to, on tracks that the local government can't afford to pay the construction financing on, let alone future maintenance.

I'm sure you're right that third tier Chinese cities are awful.

But major Chinese cities are very far ahead of America in terms of infrastructure. Similarly DJI is very far ahead of any of its competitors.

Banning Chinese things because of politics is one thing. But pretending it's because they're inferior is just ridiculous.

Re: DJI ban passes the House and moves on to the Senate

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> How is banning DJI drones in the US going to affect how they're being used in the war in Ukraine? It will not. > Or do you mean that banning them in the US will somehow stop them from being used against the US in the future? No. This is about planning for the future. In the event of a war the US wants a large existing base of domestic drone manufacturers. Today, that just does not exist at scale as most are made in…

> This is about planning for the future. In the event of a war the US wants a large existing base of domestic drone manufacturers. Today, that just does not exist at scale as most are made in China. This is similar to efforts to re-shore chip manufacturing. I don't think the US military generally uses off-the-shelf consumer products like the Ukraine military does, so does this actually affect them? They would be gett…

For whatever it's worth, the original Predator drones were mostly based on off-the-shelf parts. Wired had a great story on their history in 2016/7.
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