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DJI ban passes the House and moves on to the Senate

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Re: DJI ban passes the House and moves on to the Senate

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They could put anybody who assembles those parts into a drone into prison. Of course it would still be technically feasible to make one anyway, just as it's technically feasible to make an autosear, or for that matter a whole gun. Doesn't mean it can't be banned.

If they weren't able to stop people from growing and distributing marijuana then I doubt they'll be able to stop this.

They can't stop them all, but they definitely stopped anyone they caught.

Re: DJI ban passes the House and moves on to the Senate

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Be thankful that consumer/hobbyist drones haven't been banned entirely already (banning other model aircraft along with them as collateral damage). Especially after all the footage of essentially-hobby-grade drones with familiar open-source flight controller software being turned into very effective weapons of war in Ukraine.

The bans are inevitable. It's only a matter of time before somebody tries to drop a pipe bomb on a politician.

They wouldn't want to use a firearm for that. Might get guns banned...

Re: DJI ban passes the House and moves on to the Senate

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In this thread, people not understanding that we've literally watched in the past year as consumer drones with IEDs attached to them have made the $10 million M1 Abrams tanks obsolete and what that means for war and its downstream implications for manufacturing bases.

Re: DJI ban passes the House and moves on to the Senate

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What an utterly ridiculous response. In your eyes, businesses should be able to run roughshod over the consumer? Yes, maybe the laws could have been more polished or have been implemented in a better way, but the underlying idea of protecting the consumer is the important takeaway from these laws.

to also be fair, I just recently returned from Europe and I was shocked at how maddeningly frustrating it was to simply use the Web. Between shockingly obtrusive GDPR consent forms and outright blocks on Websites from EU consumers, it was a wild look at what Europeans have to go through under the guise of consumer protections. Like, the pendulum swung WAY too far in the other direction.

> Between shockingly obtrusive GDPR consent forms and outright blocks on Websites from EU consumers,

None of which are required by GDPR. In fact, those obtrusive "consent" forms are usually violations of GDPR.

Re: DJI ban passes the House and moves on to the Senate

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What an utterly ridiculous response. In your eyes, businesses should be able to run roughshod over the consumer? Yes, maybe the laws could have been more polished or have been implemented in a better way, but the underlying idea of protecting the consumer is the important takeaway from these laws.

to also be fair, I just recently returned from Europe and I was shocked at how maddeningly frustrating it was to simply use the Web. Between shockingly obtrusive GDPR consent forms and outright blocks on Websites from EU consumers, it was a wild look at what Europeans have to go through under the guise of consumer protections. Like, the pendulum swung WAY too far in the other direction.

As much as the idea of GDPR (and specifically cookie consent) is well intentioned, the actual laws themselves aren't great. Cookie consent is especially frustrating because it encourages the creators of the consent popups to use dark patterns to try and trick people into just accepting them.

Re: DJI ban passes the House and moves on to the Senate

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Be thankful that consumer/hobbyist drones haven't been banned entirely already (banning other model aircraft along with them as collateral damage). Especially after all the footage of essentially-hobby-grade drones with familiar open-source flight controller software being turned into very effective weapons of war in Ukraine.

We'll what happens after the first public vigilante action against a corrupt cop who got a paid vacation instead of a jail sentence. But I think that the cat is out of the bag and that DRM will be the attempted solution to this kind stuff. It's going to go poorly though. What part can you regulate and control? Not the batteries or the motors, or the off the shelf microcontrollers.

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Re: DJI ban passes the House and moves on to the Senate

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Be thankful that consumer/hobbyist drones haven't been banned entirely already (banning other model aircraft along with them as collateral damage). Especially after all the footage of essentially-hobby-grade drones with familiar open-source flight controller software being turned into very effective weapons of war in Ukraine.

Would turning drones into arms not make them more, rather than less, protected in the US?

I like the way you think.
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