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The Influencer Is a Young Teenage Girl. The Audience Is 92% Adult Men

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> Sometimes the mom spent two to four hours a day blocking users

And in the process learned that running a business involves more than just something akin to printing cash.

But that’s a lot of time for her to pursue a side gig that does not require putting your child at completely unnecessary risk.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Kids can't consent because they're not aware of what's at stake and are easily manipulated by adults/people with authority. I know this is hn and the concentration of neckbeards is high but yes: fucking kids isn't ok

Is that a "no" on the data front, then?

Do you need data that says otherwise? Let's try something else. While I look for data, Can you list 5 ways a teenage girl could be harmed by this idea that she willingly agreed to sex with a 20 year old man? What 5 harms could come of that?

Re: The Influencer Is a Young Teenage Girl. The Audience Is 92% Adult Men

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is that a "no" on the data front, then?

Do you need data that says otherwise? Let's try something else. While I look for data, Can you list 5 ways a teenage girl could be harmed by this idea that she willingly agreed to sex with a 20 year old man? What 5 harms could come of that?

This will teach me to initiate discourse on topics so far outside the Overton window.

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#45
At the very bottom:

> The mom and daughter have been debating how to proceed. They offer some subscription content on another platform, but the majority of their followers were on Instagram.

This was the most eyebrow-raising out of an entire article of eyebrow-raising, questionable decisions made by that parent. WHICH other platform?

Don't put your kids on the Internet!

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#46

I think every parent should be aware that if they give their kids a phone the result is often that they become sexually involved with strangers at a young age. Occasionally, this results in actual meet ups, mostly just sexting. I'm not sure if there is a "solution" to this problem, or its just the case that sexual morality as it has been conceived is already gone, and articles like these are just the death knells of…

Your first paragraph just about describes most dating endeavours from the parents point of view. The article is about a mother profiting from suggestive photos of her child. > But you'd figure that, eventually, the kids will think we're all being a bit ridiculous. Do you mean growing up?

>Do you mean growing up?

No.

Re: The Influencer Is a Young Teenage Girl. The Audience Is 92% Adult Men

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But have we weighed the social impact of teens not publishing themselves online to pervs? /s This, like every other problem with pervasive brainrot technology, and hell good old fashioned ways to shut a brain off, will be talked about for years. Nothing will be done. Things in 10 years will feel normal and be unimaginable now. Thus is humanity for the 30 years I've been here so far. Don't. Put. Your. Kids. On. The. I…

The counterpoint to this is that Americans are too sensitive about sex relative to other things, such as violence, with or without guns. Three year old little boys get to run around with toy weapons that shoot foam darts, and apparently that's perfectly fine. Meanwhile you're saying that a teenager apparently can't be trusted to make decisions about whom they show their own body to. That teenager might be old enough…

Its pretty simple. The parents almost surely would've been more cautious about their daughter getting married. But turning her into a marketing content mill on the internet was done with next to no consideration of the consequences.

And yeah, I guess if you don't care about tens of thousands of men perving on your daughter every day, upload away! Good thing men are never incredibly harassing or anything.

There's videos online of me doing stuff that would probably end my father's heartbeat in about 10 seconds. I'm not a prude. I'm someone that wishes people would think instead of playing this surprise Pikachu face constantly.

This general ignorance of long-term consequences, and this behavior of men... Neither are limited to Americans. I mean, I wish, it'd be an easy solution for me to avoid both, but alas.

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You're not an "influencer" if you're female and the audience is 92% men. You're just a porn star. > At one point, she offered Instagram subscriptions to users willing to pay a monthly fee for extra photos and videos. How more obvious can it be? This article is clearly the result of trying to justify selling your daughter as a porn star. They'll take the money, but oh how they wish it didn't have to be like this (it d…

'You're not an "influencer" if you're female and the audience is 92% men. You're just a porn star.' That's unfair. There are young female chess influencers such as the Botez sisters and Anna Cramling, where I'd guess that the vast majority of the audience is male. Those women are not porn stars, even though their viewership is boosted by their youth and good looks.

I'm sure there are a few that would be popular anyway, but I'm highly sceptical.

There's basically a whole category of porn which is "not explicitly porn". I guess this scratches the male itch for "she doesn't do this for anyone else". YouTube etc is full of channels like this.

You just have to ask yourself, would I be watching, and would the viewership be anywhere near this large, if it was presented by a nerdy, spotty teenage boy? No? Then it's porn.

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I think every parent should be aware that if they give their kids a phone the result is often that they become sexually involved with strangers at a young age. Occasionally, this results in actual meet ups, mostly just sexting. I'm not sure if there is a "solution" to this problem, or its just the case that sexual morality as it has been conceived is already gone, and articles like these are just the death knells of…

Now that you say this, is there any actual data on harms caused to teenagers from consensual sexual relationships with adults? Or are we all just freaking out because it's unpalatable?

> is there any actual data on harms caused to teenagers from consensual sexual relationships with adults?

YES

Becoming involved in sexual relationships early makes someone mean/cruel later in life. It also makes them more manipulative. Both are bad for society.

Bill and Hillary Clinton are examples of people who got involved sex too early, and we know how they treat people.

Imagine the nastiest attorney you know. I bet he/she was getting laid in junior high.

OTOH, helping children keep their innocence leads to kind and caring adults.

Re: The Influencer Is a Young Teenage Girl. The Audience Is 92% Adult Men

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Now that you say this, is there any actual data on harms caused to teenagers from consensual sexual relationships with adults? Or are we all just freaking out because it's unpalatable?

Kids can't consent because they're not aware of what's at stake and are easily manipulated by adults/people with authority. I know this is hn and the concentration of neckbeards is high but yes: fucking kids isn't ok

I agree. Next question: Can they consent to gender reassignment surgery?
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