In Italy we gave rights to a private company to tell all ISPs what sites should be blocked by ip. Eventually, other websites go down when some cloudflare ip gets blocked
French court orders Google, Cloudflare, Cisco to poison DNS to stop piracy
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#142Earlier quoted context omitted.
Same with tech and China. They fold like paper without any protest: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/17/technology/apple-china-ce... Chinese state employees physically manage the computers. Apple abandoned the encryption technology it used elsewhere after China would not allow it. And the digital keys that unlock information on those computers are stored in the data centers they’re meant to secure.
Apple have repeatedly thrown their customers under the bus especially in China. At least Google had the courage to withdraw entirely.
This is why I can never take their current alleged passion for privacy fully seriously. Sure, I do appreciate some of the features they're coming out with, but I don't trust them to not eventually drop this marketing angle and pull rugs when it's no longer profitable
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It's a democratic country. The voters decide if the laws their government passes are bad or not.
There is actually no evidence this is the case, and there is evidence it is the opposite - that the less voters support something, the more likely it is to pass.
This claim appears blatantly false.
If being unpopular makes a law more likely to pass, then surely the French government tars and feathers all French children every other week.
No, they don't, since the voters would prevent that by voting for a different government.
Re: French court orders Google, Cloudflare, Cisco to poison DNS to stop piracy
#145Earlier quoted context omitted.
Same with tech and China. They fold like paper without any protest: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/17/technology/apple-china-ce... Chinese state employees physically manage the computers. Apple abandoned the encryption technology it used elsewhere after China would not allow it. And the digital keys that unlock information on those computers are stored in the data centers they’re meant to secure.
Apple have repeatedly thrown their customers under the bus especially in China. At least Google had the courage to withdraw entirely.
Google had zero courage and went fully under Putin and helped him to silence Russian opposition (Navalny) during the crucial pre-election time.
Telegram did the same, btw.
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Rampant? Read the article before commenting, they are talking about 800 people in the whole of France.
It's clearly not about severity, but about control. They would try the overreach even if there is no damage to be found (like using ridiculous "this is the money we lost" calculations).
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#147I personally have zero interest in streaming soccer games, but the process involved here does leave me wondering just how resilient 1.1.1.1/9.9.9.9 (which I use with https-dns-proxy because I basically don't trust the business side of my local telco/cable monopolies as far as I can throw them) really are in practice. I'm starting to feel like someone should bring back ORSN and throw some (cryptocurrency-free, old-sch…
I mean, there are already issues with 1.1.1.1 where archive.is/.vn/etc sites don't work. I know this is due to that site's admin specifically blocking cloudflare, but it already happens. The real answer is to run your own recursive DNS resolver. It's not for the complete technical novice but it's the same amount of work as setting up pihole and requires the same amount of low-spec hardware. I don't think this is out…
Could you please share names/links?
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> Obviously there is going to be someone who doesn't do business in France and operates a public DNS server that doesn't censor anything. and so when the rights holders notice enough people pirating using dns resolvers they can't force to do anything via the french courts, they'll probably just take it up with the french ISPs and ask for IP blocks of these resolvers. And I'd guess they may already be trying to IP blo…
Italy has the system you're thinking of. It's called Piracy Shield. Upon receiving a blocking request from the government through the automated system developed for this purpose, all ISPs are required to block the domain or IP within 30 minutes or else their CEOs could be criminally charged and go to jail.
Does it work in practice? The Russian censorship machine has only reached these kinds of reaction times in the last year or so, and they had to boil the frog for a decade to achieve that.
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Or just footybite.cc will become footybite1.cc, then footybite2.cc... so on. The people writing these laws are seemingly clueless about the internet. Or perhaps, the lawyers just don't care as they are getting paid.
How will users find the new domains? If they can reliability do so then dns is not needed in the first place. If not, then the laws are effective.
"Hey leloctai, what's the new URL for ?"