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French court orders Google, Cloudflare, Cisco to poison DNS to stop piracy

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Re: French court orders Google, Cloudflare, Cisco to poison DNS to stop piracy

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"A French court has ordered Google, Cloudflare, and Cisco to poison their DNS resolvers to prevent circumvention of blocking measures, targeting around 117 pirate sports streaming domains." Most if not all of these domains probably use Cloudflare as their authoritative DNS servers because they are using Cloudflare CDN. Why not just ask Cloudflare to "poison" those RRs. No need to issue orders to a selection of cache…

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Re: French court orders Google, Cloudflare, Cisco to poison DNS to stop piracy

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Over a decade ago, a ton of tech companies (including Google) coordinated a “blackout the Internet” day of protest against U.S. legislation that would have required them to alter DNS to fight piracy. Interesting that now that France actually does it, they say they will comply. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protests_against_SOPA_and_PI...

In the last decade Tech has become part of the establishment. They are one of the dominant controlling forces. The blackout was _not_ about preserving free speech, or any other moral high road. It was purely about control. Tech hadn’t yet cemented their position as a dominant player and didn’t want to cede the control they had. Now that they’ve embedded themselves in the ruling class they don’t care as much because t…

If they had control they wouldn’t comply

Re: French court orders Google, Cloudflare, Cisco to poison DNS to stop piracy

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same with tech and China. They fold like paper without any protest: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/17/technology/apple-china-ce... Chinese state employees physically manage the computers. Apple abandoned the encryption technology it used elsewhere after China would not allow it. And the digital keys that unlock information on those computers are stored in the data centers they’re meant to secure.

Apple have repeatedly thrown their customers under the bus especially in China. At least Google had the courage to withdraw entirely.

Apple leaving china does essentially nothing, the people there won’t get end to end encryption either way

Re: French court orders Google, Cloudflare, Cisco to poison DNS to stop piracy

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Does Cloudflare operate different 1.1.1.1s for each country?

It's not required that they do so in order to implement a France only block. They just geolocate the requesting IP, and give different answers based on that. Same as Netflix or any other provider geo blocking there content, with the same workarounds. But also, in answer to your question, sort of, yes. 1.1.1.1 is any cast so that users will be routed to a server geographically near them. So then 1.1.1.1 a user gets in…

The venn diagram of people who are technically savvy enough to be able to alter their dns records and people who can and will use a VPN to work around an ip geolocation block is almost a single circle.

Re: French court orders Google, Cloudflare, Cisco to poison DNS to stop piracy

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Over a decade ago, a ton of tech companies (including Google) coordinated a “blackout the Internet” day of protest against U.S. legislation that would have required them to alter DNS to fight piracy. Interesting that now that France actually does it, they say they will comply. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protests_against_SOPA_and_PI...

Yep. Net neutrality, my left foot. MAANG are all about participating in PRISM, monopolizing access, and choosing who can and can't speak because they compromise a for-profit, oligopolic, technocratic cartel.

Re: French court orders Google, Cloudflare, Cisco to poison DNS to stop piracy

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post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same with tech and China. They fold like paper without any protest: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/17/technology/apple-china-ce... Chinese state employees physically manage the computers. Apple abandoned the encryption technology it used elsewhere after China would not allow it. And the digital keys that unlock information on those computers are stored in the data centers they’re meant to secure.

Apple have repeatedly thrown their customers under the bus especially in China. At least Google had the courage to withdraw entirely.

Google employees had the courage to force Google to pretend to withdraw.

Re: French court orders Google, Cloudflare, Cisco to poison DNS to stop piracy

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Over a decade ago, a ton of tech companies (including Google) coordinated a “blackout the Internet” day of protest against U.S. legislation that would have required them to alter DNS to fight piracy. Interesting that now that France actually does it, they say they will comply. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protests_against_SOPA_and_PI...

Piracy is simply Terrible, it's chopping the dear copyright holders off at the knees, they are frequently having to go on food stamps, and it's unclear how they'll continue on. /s Fighting online piracy: First world, or even zeroth world problem. It's not loke the pirates are saying "hmm, should I pay exorbitant rates for this or should I pirate it?" The real competition is alternatives: "should I bother pirating thi…

It's all about profit protectionism of the moats around streaming to enforce the arbitrary extraction of gotcha capitalism subscription fees from as many people as possible for as much as possible.
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