The number of CS grads who don't even know basic Git commands is astounding
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Re: The number of CS grads who don't even know basic Git commands is astounding
#2"its so easy to use!" tho, right? Why should one need formal education to pick it up?
Git is like Autoconf for a lot of problems: utterly unnecessary but often included by default because people have been told "best practice" and never thought to ask themselves if that was true in their case.
Re: The number of CS grads who don't even know basic Git commands is astounding
#3I've worked with hundreds of CS grads, the worst programmer I ever came across (as far as readibility of his code) had a master's degree in CS from stanford.
Re: The number of CS grads who don't even know basic Git commands is astounding
#4This is why it's called Computer Science, and not Software Engineering.
Re: The number of CS grads who don't even know basic Git commands is astounding
#5This is one of those things that MIT’s missing semester course aims to help with (https://missing.csail.mit.edu/), and although computer science is different from software engineering, the reality is that most CS grads go into software engineering, and thus should try and learn these essential skills.
Re: The number of CS grads who don't even know basic Git commands is astounding
#6This is why it's called Computer Science, and not Software Engineering.
In my uni, "Software Engineering" was the one class of the CS program that had nothing to do with programming. It was about UML, SOLID, DRY, KISS, agile, scrum and more. Useless class that was mostly a waste of time.
On the other hand, we had classes like Operating Systems, Computer Networks and more where we had to write things in C and assembly.
Re: The number of CS grads who don't even know basic Git commands is astounding
#7I've worked with hundreds of CS grads, the worst programmer I ever came across (as far as readibility of his code) had a master's degree in CS from stanford.
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Re: The number of CS grads who don't even know basic Git commands is astounding
#8I had a strikingly similar experience at my own university, and took things into my own hands somewhat by teaching a free, basic Git course each semester.
Re: The number of CS grads who don't even know basic Git commands is astounding
#9This is why it's called Computer Science, and not Software Engineering.
So where should people who want to learn the discipline of software engineering go? It’s definitely what most CS majors are actually there for, and there’s no separate software engineering major at (almost) any liberal arts colleges. I get that saying “that’s why it’s CS not SE” is the hip thing to say when this comes up, but it doesn’t answer the underlying issue, which is that people want a mix of theory and job training, and right now they’re getting almost entirely theory.
Re: The number of CS grads who don't even know basic Git commands is astounding
#10I've worked with hundreds of CS grads, the worst programmer I ever came across (as far as readibility of his code) had a master's degree in CS from stanford.
Similar experience here, too. Virtually every time I have worked with, trained, or reported to someone with a CS degree from Stanford or Harvard, they have approached their work with a narrow mind and little empathy for others. This has been true in the military, public sector, and the private sector. I don’t know what it is about these places.
I read something a while back that did color my understanding of folks somewhat, and that was that there are a lot of people who come into the technology field for the money, not necessarily because of their lifelong interest in tinkering with computers. That to me is nuts, but I guess it’s to be expected. Maybe the sample size of my experience with these folks is overrepresented with people who are in it for the money and not curiosity and creativity. I don’t know.