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IKEA's retailer's solved global 'unhappy worker' crisis by raising salaries

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Re: IKEA's retailer's solved global 'unhappy worker' crisis by raising salaries

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Post by lucumo »

refurb wrote: post #104
lucumo wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is better for everyone, and it does not devalue child-rearing at all. It is better for the family: - it has more resources - it has more income diversification It is better for the father: - he doesn't have to carry the weight of income-gathering alone It is better for the mother: - she doesn't have to carry the weight of child-rearing alone - if things go sour, she can maintain herself and/or the family financial…

Ehhh… better for the kid? Kids can get plenty of social interactions and variety with a stay at home parent. Plus they get the benefit of time with parents, parents can focus on doing things they think is valuable for the kid. To somehow claim that childcare comes at no cost for kids is naive.

> Kids can get plenty of social interactions and variety with a stay at home parent.

The keyword there is "can". They can, it's just less likely. Especially when a parent takes the "stay at home" part too literal.

> To somehow claim that childcare comes at no cost for kids is naive.

Well, my experience with my kids was that their daycare was beneficial for them. They did not always want to go, but they definitely enjoyed all their days there. And especially for the first one, they had a lot of experiences that my wife and I would never have even considered as an option.

Comparing them to their classmates when school started, they were way ahead in lots of things. Absolutely in language development, socialization and being able to focus. They were also just way less, for lack of a better term, worried about everything. They knew that the world does not revolve around mommy and daddy, and that they'd be fine in new environments.

Re: IKEA's retailer's solved global 'unhappy worker' crisis by raising salaries

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Post by kreyenborgi »

Because it costs them less than onboarding. IKEA would never pay more than they can get away with: https://www.fastcompany.com/3035734/ikea-is-a-nonprofit-and-...

(TIL Ingvar Kamprad, IKEA's founder, was a part of the pro-nazi Nysvenska party during WW2. If he were from occupied Norway, he would never even have gotten the chance to start IKEA, people didn't buy from quislings. But Sweden was neutral, a very different climate after the war.)

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Post by jampekka »

defrost wrote: post #55
from-nibly wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right, because raising kids isn't contributing to society.

That's exactly why child care workers who look after packs of 15 to 20 kids at a time should be highly valued and paid a decent wage. It's how villages worked in the past, most adults did non child related work much of the time, some adults and some older children kept an eye on what the pooled group of kids were up to .. watching, sometimes educating, sometimes leading them in "work" building things, cooking, huntin…

I'd guess they referred to the non-working parents contributing to the society by raising their children.

All contributions don't get paid, and all that get paid don't contribute.

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Post by nottorp »

givemeethekeys wrote: post #40
jamesrom wrote: post #35

Doing stuff that makes people happy makes people happy. In other news, water found to be wet.

It's a big deal because other large companies invent "open offices" and "unlimited vacation" policies.

Mhh we're talking about a company that makes furniture here. I bet it's "open factory floor" over there.

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Post by Iulioh »

switch007 wrote: post #111
imp0cat wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39712344 Here's my own (sry) post on how to pick the good stuff.

Person I quoted said good high end. I think you've interpreted good as just "looks good", based on that first minute of the video, which only talks about style. ÄPPLARYD is a cheaply made sofa that looks nice, with very poor quality fabric just like all IKEA sofas these days I'm fine with people saying it looks nice but it's tiring when people say it's "high end" and "high quality" and well made

Go on ikea and filter whatever product form higher cost to lowest

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Post by akira2501 »

misterbwong wrote: post #6

OP's link should really include the full title: Ikea’s boss solved the Swedish retailer’s global ‘unhappy worker’ crisis by raising salaries, introducing flexible working and subsidizing childcare Cutting it off there just makes it seem like ikea thinks "more money = happy workers" when in reality it is more nuanced than that.

> when in reality it is more nuanced than that.

More money = happy workers, unless of course, you don't give them money, but also other economic benefits that are equivalent to money. I'm not seeing the nuance.

Re: IKEA's retailer's solved global 'unhappy worker' crisis by raising salaries

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Post by nottorp »

Sohcahtoa82 wrote: post #11

Can someone explain to me why corporate management seems unable to grasp the concept of properly paying and providing benefits for their employees to increase retention and have more successful hiring? Like...is it actual incompetence? Or do they know it's the answer, but just don't want to do it? I just can't grasp why a manager would refuse to provide proper pay and benefits and then get a Surprised Pikachu face wh…

Because IKEA is not a publicly traded company. Don't know about the non profit part, but their management doesn't have to worry about growing the stock price every month at the least.

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Post by idiliv »

akira2501 wrote: post #126
misterbwong wrote: post #6

OP's link should really include the full title: Ikea’s boss solved the Swedish retailer’s global ‘unhappy worker’ crisis by raising salaries, introducing flexible working and subsidizing childcare Cutting it off there just makes it seem like ikea thinks "more money = happy workers" when in reality it is more nuanced than that.

> when in reality it is more nuanced than that. More money = happy workers, unless of course, you don't give them money, but also other economic benefits that are equivalent to money. I'm not seeing the nuance.

How are flexible working hours equivalent to more money?

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Post by Der_Einzige »

Iulioh wrote: post #10
mensetmanusman wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is a primordial forest, and why is its wood so easy to break when in the form of a cabinet?

A lot of high end ikea stuff is REALLY good, it's not all honeycomb crap. Honestly it's ikea or luxury stuff, anything else does not make sense. You can't beat ikea quality and quality at any price point.

Bullshit. Amish folks are feeling the economic pain of high interest rates and have seen sales slow significantly. You can get crazy good deals on Amish made furniture right now, and both from in terms of the quality of materials and the quality of the assembly, it will be superior to anything at similar price point to Ikea.

Folks keep acting like it's still 2022 and that we are somehow in a ZIRP era. It's not, and most assets are not selling and are therefor to be had for cheap.

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Post by Iulioh »

Der_Einzige wrote: post #129
Iulioh wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A lot of high end ikea stuff is REALLY good, it's not all honeycomb crap. Honestly it's ikea or luxury stuff, anything else does not make sense. You can't beat ikea quality and quality at any price point.

Bullshit. Amish folks are feeling the economic pain of high interest rates and have seen sales slow significantly. You can get crazy good deals on Amish made furniture right now, and both from in terms of the quality of materials and the quality of the assembly, it will be superior to anything at similar price point to Ikea. Folks keep acting like it's still 2022 and that we are somehow in a ZIRP era. It's not, and m…

Amish made goods could be considered luxury products if handmade to high standards.

The problem is availability (online and in person) and warranty (not only in a legal sense , but quality assurance)

Can you tell me what's the price of a table with 4 chairs from a Amish workshop, for example?

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