It could be cool to have an HN Telegram group
Telegram isn’t end to end encrypted and you should uninstall it from your device.
Group chats rule the world
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#72How do you get invited in good groups? Like, if you don’t have a friend inside already.
That is their core problem! The good news is that anyone who knows 2 or more other people that share an interest can quickly and easily start a group chat. They're free and if no one ever posts again, nothing lost. I've started group chats around something as momentous and permanent as fatherhood and something as silly and ephemeral as the 2003 film Master and Commander.
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#73Private chats solve the problem of anonymity allowing people to behave badly. In a chat you have reputation and you get kicked if you're an asshole.
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#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
Aside from the usual luxury pics, planning trips and events, pics with celebrities, and high society gossip and boiling hot tea, these women are very sexual. Nearly all are married but of course that doesn’t stop them from having their men on the side. A lot of these men look like male models and the chat is littered with nude pics showing off how very well endowed they are. If you’re very good looking with good soci…
A chance at what? Hahahaha. Ew.
Having some no-commitment sex for a season or three with a probably-quite-attractive woman while enjoying a little bit of the kind of luxury hundreds of millions of dollars or more buy you and having many of your needs taken care of for the duration? Maybe making contacts in the process to eventually land some easy money-making gigs that move you a couple rungs up the ol’ economic-opportunity ladder?
Like, if you can swing that and are a younger dude, I can see the appeal.
Basically a hand-me-down version of the appeal of being married to a rich guy, really, and nobody is confused about why that’s appealing.
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#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
Aside from the usual luxury pics, planning trips and events, pics with celebrities, and high society gossip and boiling hot tea, these women are very sexual. Nearly all are married but of course that doesn’t stop them from having their men on the side. A lot of these men look like male models and the chat is littered with nude pics showing off how very well endowed they are. If you’re very good looking with good soci…
They probably cringe when hearing about my tech nerd group chats, but still eww. The female millionaires I know aren't like this... they must be US millionaires?
New money / old money?
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#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
A chance at what? Hahahaha. Ew.
Having some no-commitment sex for a season or three with a probably-quite-attractive woman while enjoying a little bit of the kind of luxury hundreds of millions of dollars or more buy you and having many of your needs taken care of for the duration? Maybe making contacts in the process to eventually land some easy money-making gigs that move you a couple rungs up the ol’ economic-opportunity ladder? Like, if you can…
Thanks, I'm not a male prostitute.
I'll do you one better, I'd pay good money to avoid these people. They aren't any more physically attractive then any other cohort of women (not to be mean but some of them look like Lena Dunham) and are a nightmare to be around.
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#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
If the groups get big enough, bots sneak in. Telegram is good for groups. But the bots are annoying even without LLMs. If the APIs get cheap and the bot makers smart, they can soon sneak in product placement in semi private chats (sport club, etc) where not everyone knows everyone. Right now the ads are quite obvious ads and scam, still many fall for it. So I suspect more invite only groups .. and that works, until t…
I think I take a stricter definition of "private groups" than simply being "invite-only." Invites are a necessary condition, but not sufficient. To me, private groups are limited to people who already have an established connection offline, or otherwise might just be separated by one mutual connection. You need to actually know someone in the group to join, and required shared social understanding greatly reduces the…
Would agree with this. I have witnessed a smaller private group have stuff leaked and scraped, which was interesting yet petty drama but the more important angle that relates to what you’re talking about is that bad faith actor was removed and now fewer people get full access.
I think that’s the way most groups are going to lean, “quarantined” initial access that opens up after whatever metrics they deem important.
Of course you can’t prevent all bad things from ever happening, but it’s enough to deter mindless web content scraping bots and such!
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#78On shared rituals, the ones I like the most are 1. Good mornings. Where it's a norm to post "Good morning" or equivalent at the start of your day. It signals that you're continuing to participate and value the group. 2. @Welcomes. When a new member joins, they are @-ed with a welcome message by the users currently present. It helps expand the join->engage funnel. Some groups have a lot of people show up and then neve…
I hate 1 & 3. DING morning. (Great, what do I do wi-)DING [...]
At least it's over by about 9.30. Worse is the 'brb's, 'just getting lunch', 'school run' etc. - we're not talking, perhaps haven't talked for weeks, I don't need to talk to you, I don't need anything from you, I don't care where you're going, for all I knew you already weren't there. Just set your actual status if you think someone might give a shit. (You know, next to the one that shows you're online, so I don't need your Morning.)
> In my experience, it's easy to introduce these into a group simply by modeling them. After a week or two of consistent behavior, someone else, and then many others will join in.
Well, that's the nail in my the coffin of my plan to stop people doing it by not participating!
Oh the final semi-related thing I have to rant about that I obviously don't want to at work/to the people that do it - little emojis with your good morning to indicate your mood? Grow up, the job to do is the same one whether you're feeling rainy clouds or not, and I don't know what I'm supposed to do about it. (Caveat I'm nobody's manager, obviously if something really bad's going on you might want to mention it to them etc. and that's completely different & fine. It's the declaration of day to day feelings of being on top of the world or having got out of bed on the wrong side that wind me up.)
On many occasions I've wished for Slack to have a kind of 'filter' blocking feature - presumably the authors at least and perhaps others like these messages; maybe I'm even alone in not liking them - it would be good if I could define searches essentially, that if a message matched would be automatically hidden from view and never notify, regardless of @mention or channel notification settings. Then everyone can be happy. (Not just for these kinds of messages, but also say bots too - where some people find value in GitHub bot messages for example, I need to be in the channel, but I use github.com/notifications for all that and don't need or want it in the channel.)
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#79Feels like high school all over again where I wasn't allowed to sit at the "cool table".
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#80I used to be involved in several, highly active group chats. Over time these effectively became a concentrated form of social media, i.e. mostly a distraction and waste of time.
I remember I first installed WhatsApp back in, o, 2013? I had held off for a long time, but I had just moved abroad and beggers can't be choosers. I was added to a group chat within 24 hours, and in the following 24 hours I watched all the pointless chatter and I deleted WhatsApp. I'm on Signal now, and the number of groups are under control.