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Where did the idea of the tin foil hat come from?

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Re: Where did the idea of the tin foil hat come from?

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Post by rootsudo »

tombert wrote: post #25
bee_rider wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But nowadays with TikTok and YouTube, Dale Gribble can become an influencer, and at home video editing is so good that he can have his own green-screened newsroom with all the accoutrements of respectability. Or he could just start a podcast.

Very tangential, but the voice actor of Dale (Johnny Hardwick, RIP) actually had YouTube videos playing Dale as Rust Shackleford in The Rusty Report. My head canon says that this is where Dale ended up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wiVDr-Pr5o

I am both amused and in horror about this, it really shows the decline of what passes as a conspiracy theory but I am deeply amused how it does follow the canon of the show faithfully and if King of the Hill was to be made in todays time, I can see this and just having this difference in times really is amusing -

It makes it much clear what is healthy paraonia and what is unhealthy paranoia. Granted what is healthy paraonia and how can there be a spectrum but - geez.

I just can't tell anymore. Maybe I could never tell.

Re: Where did the idea of the tin foil hat come from?

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Post by zamadatix »

aodonnell2536 wrote: post #59
zamadatix wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Neither example is meant to be implied as the only possible way of for forming that kind of distrust rather examples of logic used and types of conclusions reached. I could just have easily said "people who think lizard people want to hold us back from discovering advanced math" as a reason some deeply distrust all formal math and your response would be focusing on how there are other ways (besides lizard people) to…

With due respect, I reused your own example to highlight its absurdity. That being said, you still haven’t convinced me. I claim I t’s very possible to hold deep distrust without attributing intentions/motivations to conspiratorial actions. The act of distrusting does not require an assumption of motivations (or a nefarious/secretive plot, as you put it).

I'm still not sure I follow on what you mean about its absurdity. If the point is deep distrust is supposed to result from some absurd reasoning then of course the example is an instance of absurdity. Highlighting that does not bring a new point of view or show how non-absurd reasoning is also supposed to lead to deep distrust in context of the article. It's one thing to say you're unconvinced, nobody can really respond take away anything from that, but it's another to explain why people should agree with your different take instead.

I think we both agree distrust doesn't require a universal underlying motivation but you're continuing to use "distrust" and "deep distrust" interchangeably without explaining why people should consider them interchangeable in context of the article.

Re: Where did the idea of the tin foil hat come from?

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Post by aodonnell2536 »

zamadatix wrote: post #62
aodonnell2536 wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With due respect, I reused your own example to highlight its absurdity. That being said, you still haven’t convinced me. I claim I t’s very possible to hold deep distrust without attributing intentions/motivations to conspiratorial actions. The act of distrusting does not require an assumption of motivations (or a nefarious/secretive plot, as you put it).

I'm still not sure I follow on what you mean about its absurdity. If the point is deep distrust is supposed to result from some absurd reasoning then of course the example is an instance of absurdity. Highlighting that does not bring a new point of view or show how non-absurd reasoning is also supposed to lead to deep distrust in context of the article. It's one thing to say you're unconvinced, nobody can really resp…

There really isn’t much to be explained. I’m using the terms somewhat interchangeably because they are essentially the same thing - deep distrust is just high magnitude distrust.

One may distrust their state, but in some regards can still trust. One with deep distrust will likely never trust, their level of distrust is much higher. This does not require a conspiratorial mindset.

Re: Where did the idea of the tin foil hat come from?

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Post by TowerTall »

From one the great web 2.0 site "Aluminum Foil Deflector Beanie" (Created in 1997) [1] [2]:

[...] There is a long history of using aluminum to both deflect mind control signals and to control them. Evidence suggests that the ancient Atlanteans used aluminum armor and psychotrons in their wars with the Phoenician Old Dynasty. [...] The first truly modern instance of anti-psychotronic aluminum use was in the late 18th century by the American statesman, philosopher, and inventor Benjamin Franklin. His discoveries were built upon in the beginning of the 20th century by Yugoslavian born electrical genius Nikola Tesla. Of course, the US military has been researching aluminum for use in psychotronic weapons and armor as long as it has been involved in mind control, which is to say since it's inception.

[1] https://zapatopi.net/afdb/history.html

[2] Please treat all info on the site as a joke. It is a very well done website, but I would take all info provide there with a grain of salt as it is a humorous website. Neverless a brilliant website that makes me laugh.

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