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How is France dodging the global obesity trend?

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Re: How is France dodging the global obesity trend?

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I think you should work through these thoughts with a trusted confidant in private! Your sense of embarrassment needs some fine tuning before you continue doing this in a public forum.

Spoken like a true frog. FYI your own frog intellectual hacks think that "psychotherapy" should look like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizoanalysis

I'm from alabama lmao

Re: How is France dodging the global obesity trend?

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This is the key distinction IMO. The French smoke and drink and eat crap food just like everyone else. They just don't mess about in my experience. If you are fat, you are fat. You're not body positive, you're not big boned, you don't have a slow metabolism, you're not in a food desert, you're not even obese, you're just fat. Sort it out. They're not afraid of calling a spade a spade. It really is that simple when yo…

> food desert There are absolutely places, at least here in the U.S., where food deserts really are a thing though. I live in the south and there are places here where you can't buy fresh produce for miles. I don't live in such a place but I've been to these kinds of places.

This is a failure of government to incentivize availability.

Re: How is France dodging the global obesity trend?

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This is the key distinction IMO. The French smoke and drink and eat crap food just like everyone else. They just don't mess about in my experience. If you are fat, you are fat. You're not body positive, you're not big boned, you don't have a slow metabolism, you're not in a food desert, you're not even obese, you're just fat. Sort it out. They're not afraid of calling a spade a spade. It really is that simple when yo…

> food desert There are absolutely places, at least here in the U.S., where food deserts really are a thing though. I live in the south and there are places here where you can't buy fresh produce for miles. I don't live in such a place but I've been to these kinds of places.

One can't buy fresh produce in my region of the world for the better part of a year (9-10 months) because of harsh climate combined with long distances from the ocean and major railroads, and we have almost no fat people at all. Vegetables and fruit are sold even in the middle of winter, but they're extremely expensive, more so than meat.

Re: How is France dodging the global obesity trend?

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As someone living in France, there's something which doesn't get enough attention. Everyone in France (okay, almost everyone) "does sport". It's drilled into kids that they need to have some sort of physical activity, and it's one of the things people getting to know each other ask one another - what sort of sport do you take a part in. There are "hype" sports like wall climbing, quite popular in some of the big citi…

I agree with this and think that the role of exercise and sport in body composition is often misunderstood.

The calories burned playing a five a side football match aren't that big a deal, neither is the BMR adjustment from going to the gym unless you really go hard on it. It makes a difference, yes, but it's not the real key.

What matters is that it forces you to be to some degree mindful about what you are eating, because most sports become really shit and unenjoyable if you are out of shape, you can literally see and feel your performance decreasing.

Re: How is France dodging the global obesity trend?

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Have you seen the Deep South? At some point the majority literally "outweighs" and forces it into acceptability despite it's abhorrence. Similar to how accepted circumcision is despite how fucked it is when one thinks about it.

How many obese people do you see on Fox News?

They aren’t going to hire anyone overweight

Re: How is France dodging the global obesity trend?

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I’ve lived in France for a year and visited numerous times for a few weeks or a month.

I have eaten quite well over there including foods that aren’t exactly healthy.

I never gained weight while in France. I often come back having lost weight. My exercise isn’t consistent there either.

I suspect it’s the quality of the ingredients and the cuisine.

Re: How is France dodging the global obesity trend?

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>....why much of SE/east asia is super thin despite a heavily rice based diet. I would say: ....why much of SE/east asia is super thin because of a heavily rice based diet.

If you replace their rice by the white rice you find in the US, it would turn in a 'despite'.

Why? What's the difference in the rice?

Re: How is France dodging the global obesity trend?

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I imagine this is the classic Hacker News "everyone reads the title but not the article" effect, but the question posed here isn't why is France's obesity rate low. It's lower than global leaders like Egypt and the US but that's true in a lot of places. However, in those places, including places like India and China being cited in other comments, as well as places like Japan with historically very low rates, they've…

Yes! Looking at the graph, it seems like the real question should be, "what has changed in France since roughly 2008?"

I wonder if there's some food additive they banned at around that time...

Re: How is France dodging the global obesity trend?

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India is dodging the obesity trend? India has one of the fastest growing rated of diabetes and obesity, as observed with economies where incomes are rising across the board. Not to mention Indian food being extremely unhealthy in general across the board (save for some vegetarian cuisines). China is also seeing an uptick in obesity rates and diabetes, etc as more folks move from rice carbs to sugars, and from veggies…

> Not to mention Indian food being extremely unhealthy in general across the board (save for some vegetarian cuisines) So, except for the majority of it? A lot of Indians are strict vegetarians and even among the meat eaters, they still generally eat a lot of non-meat dishes.

"Some" vegetarian cuisines. What I had in mind was specifically South Indian Udupi vegetarian cuisine, which you'd find at Saravana Bhavans the world over. The vast majority of North Indian vegetarian cuisine is still unhealthy fried food, server with dollops of ghee.

Re: How is France dodging the global obesity trend?

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See also, the "French Paradox" [1] of how despite high saturated fat intake via cheese that heart health is still fine in France.

To add to the point about milk fat, butter has been shown to not be much related to heart disease in observational studies (/study) [2], which is not the case for eggs despite popular belief supporting eggs as gram-for-gram being healthier than butter.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_paradox

[2] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4927102/

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