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Where did the idea of the tin foil hat come from?

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Re: Where did the idea of the tin foil hat come from?

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It is a waste of time to continue to try to develop a power one does not have. Manipulating (e.g. "people who down vote [sic] refuse to believe"), spreading fear (e.g. "[mind manipulation occurs on] an 'industrial' scale"), and inflating one's own ego (e.g. "I am a renegade of thought control") contribute little to the discussion of this article. That is all.

Are you calling me a lier?

Re: Where did the idea of the tin foil hat come from?

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It is a waste of time to continue to try to develop a power one does not have. Manipulating (e.g. "people who down vote [sic] refuse to believe"), spreading fear (e.g. "[mind manipulation occurs on] an 'industrial' scale"), and inflating one's own ego (e.g. "I am a renegade of thought control") contribute little to the discussion of this article. That is all.

Accurate and useful information for anyone that has ever overestimated their individual ability to discern all of reality with a mere folklore sense of it.

Every sitting president since George W has had an "introductory" level of awareness with thought control, America's grand extortionist. George W had been indoctrinated since college, during his xxx initiation. Before that, like you they only had a Man's ignorance in themselves.

I think it is time to stop denying the exogenous of thought control. For the sake of world peace and all (your weaponized denial.)

I know you'll call me crazy, that doesn't make it untrue.

Re: Where did the idea of the tin foil hat come from?

#53

We are all vulnerable to abstractions. Those with thinner boundaries of the mind are easier to penetrate with folklore. Often these disinformation efforts are emotionally powerful enough to transcend science and reason. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boundaries_of_the_mind

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Re: Where did the idea of the tin foil hat come from?

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??? Is this /s? ChatGPT? Both?

I suspect a „flood the channel with shit“ background. I’m starting to see this pattern more regularly lately: on a social media site, mix some nonsense into some real context “Foo”, and add a link to the Wikipedia for “Foo”. Enough readers will be too lazy to actually read the Wikipedia article to find out that “Foo” didn’t contain the crazy parts, but will vaguely remember “there was this Foo thing with this really…

I appreciate you putting this into words. The very idea (that people who skim articles will form skewed concepts in absence of full comprehension) is fairly significant in our society where information competes for your limited headspace.

Re: Where did the idea of the tin foil hat come from?

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I worked with a fellow who was adamant that molybdenum was a better choice for head protection, and that tin or al-foil was just a cheap government trick to convince people into ineffective protection. He was a funny guy who could say things like this with a convincing straight face.

Re: Where did the idea of the tin foil hat come from?

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These days, conspiracy theorists seem to be some of the most open to manipulation folks out there. > Even though “tin foil hat” is the expression, most people use aluminum foil these days. This is probably why, we’ve been duped! They replaced the tin with aluminum. Everyone knows aluminum has mind control enhancing, not reducing, powers.

I still mask (and wear a flo mask to boot!) -- now I wonder if people think I'm a conspiracy theorist? I have a soft spot for conspiracy theorists: they have such a charitable view of humanity that they believe a large number of people can keep a secret.

I'll echo the other comment: if you're wearing a serious looking mask I'm just going to assume you've got a serious medical problem until I get other reason to suspect otherwise.

Re: Where did the idea of the tin foil hat come from?

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>Wearing one signals to others that you’re unhinged, have a deep distrust of the government, or that you’re really worried about aliens. >have a deep distrust of the government sure Gizmodo, being distrustful of a massive power entity is a lunacy /s

Deep distrust in this context is more like "lizard people are running the government as a tool to control us" where the entity secretly exists for a nefarious purpose rather than the stated one and there can be no level of trust with anything from it as a result. It's not the same as general distrust which would be more like "I don't trust all politicians inherently have our best interests at heart or that they will…

No, I don’t believe it is. There’s much wiggle room between the two scenarios you painted.

Of course one can have a deep distrust of the government without believing it’s run by lizard people from another planet.

Re: Where did the idea of the tin foil hat come from?

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Deep distrust in this context is more like "lizard people are running the government as a tool to control us" where the entity secretly exists for a nefarious purpose rather than the stated one and there can be no level of trust with anything from it as a result. It's not the same as general distrust which would be more like "I don't trust all politicians inherently have our best interests at heart or that they will…

No, I don’t believe it is. There’s much wiggle room between the two scenarios you painted. Of course one can have a deep distrust of the government without believing it’s run by lizard people from another planet.

Neither example is meant to be implied as the only possible way of for forming that kind of distrust rather examples of logic used and types of conclusions reached. I could just have easily said "people who think lizard people want to hold us back from discovering advanced math" as a reason some deeply distrust all formal math and your response would be focusing on how there are other ways (besides lizard people) to deeply distrust all existing math - completely sidestepping the actual point point around the absurdity and unfalsifiability of the type of conclusion about deep distrust of all of math itself vs the types of conclusions normal distrust reaches (e.g. "I know not everything in a maths textbook will always be right but I can try to think about each consideration independent of a central conspiracy on all of math".

Put another way without specific example or analogy: if there is some organization as large as a nation's government (thousands upon thousands of organizations, possibly millions of people) and you can't weigh things done by said government without always invoking a single nefarious/secretive plot or group being behind it every time then you've left the realm of standard or reasonable distrust and entered the realm of unfalsifiable, unhinged thinking the article is meaning by deep distrust. Even the worst governments in our world's history aren't reasonably measured that way. The alternative to this is not blind trust, it's normal distrust GP was arguing for.

Re: Where did the idea of the tin foil hat come from?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, I don’t believe it is. There’s much wiggle room between the two scenarios you painted. Of course one can have a deep distrust of the government without believing it’s run by lizard people from another planet.

Neither example is meant to be implied as the only possible way of for forming that kind of distrust rather examples of logic used and types of conclusions reached. I could just have easily said "people who think lizard people want to hold us back from discovering advanced math" as a reason some deeply distrust all formal math and your response would be focusing on how there are other ways (besides lizard people) to…

With due respect, I reused your own example to highlight its absurdity.

That being said, you still haven’t convinced me. I claim I t’s very possible to hold deep distrust without attributing intentions/motivations to conspiratorial actions.

The act of distrusting does not require an assumption of motivations (or a nefarious/secretive plot, as you put it).

Re: Where did the idea of the tin foil hat come from?

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The CIA popularized the "tinfoil hat conspiracy nut" as a reverse-psychology trick back in the '60s as part of Operation Mockingbird. The government had seen promising results in its experiments to control human emotions via radio-wave emissions, and they wanted to deploy this technology on a national scale. However, one recurring problem was that thin films of conductive material, such as aluminum foil, had a tenden…

> The government had seen promising results in its experiments to control human emotions via radio-wave emissions There's no mention of this in the Wikipedia article.

This is common, conspiracy theorists never read the links they forward, it is sufficient to have something that passes first muster, a scientific article, a report, something with the right sounding title, they'll never read the contents.
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