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Re: Calm Company Fund Is Taking a Break

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Shutting down without trying to spook their investors or current portfolio companies. Couching it as taking a break seems clever but I’m guessing any seasoned investors will read between the lines and see that this isn’t working. The problem with thinking everyone else is wrong (ie how VCs operate) is that usually it turns out they are not. I’m guessing it wasn’t the story telling prowess of lack of deep connections…

> The problem with thinking everyone else is wrong is that usually it turns out they are not.

I don't know that this is objectively true. The more accurate thing to say is that sometimes it's better to be wrong in the same way as everyone else. VC investing seems to be mostly based on chasing trends and "pattern matching", so trying to do anything heterodox is going to be an uphill battle.

Re: Calm Company Fund Is Taking a Break

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep. I was curious about what that mitigation was about. Anyone knows?

I'm an LP in both Calm and the fund, SureSwift, that's suing them, so I suspect I know as much as anyone external. Weirdly, the only information I've been able to glean is from Calm, but I did participate in the events personally that are part of the litigation. The other fund, SureSwift, had some drama (founding GP left, replaced with a hired CEO who seems entirely competent), and SureSwift shortly after sued Calm a…

What's an LP?

Re: Calm Company Fund Is Taking a Break

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post #22
post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm an LP in both Calm and the fund, SureSwift, that's suing them, so I suspect I know as much as anyone external. Weirdly, the only information I've been able to glean is from Calm, but I did participate in the events personally that are part of the litigation. The other fund, SureSwift, had some drama (founding GP left, replaced with a hired CEO who seems entirely competent), and SureSwift shortly after sued Calm a…

What's an LP?

limited partner. aka investor

Re: Calm Company Fund Is Taking a Break

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Another LIRP down the tubes?

Something like Calm Company Fund would presumably offer lower risk and lower returns (per company) than a typical VC fund targeting high-risk high-growth. But with the advent of high interest rates, the fund is now competing with a lot of low risk alternatives.

Re: Calm Company Fund Is Taking a Break

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If any of you like me had no idea what a Calm company was: https://www.outseta.com/posts/calm seems to explain. In summary - it's about how the company is run - not that they make apps to help you meditate.

Yes this is covered quite clearly in paragraph three of the article we're discussing.

Re: Calm Company Fund Is Taking a Break

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post #6

Indie.vc, which had a similar model, also shut down shop for a while due to capital constraints. They've since restarted the fund though.

I think that’s an interesting observation.

Indie.vc is as started as a fund in O’Reilly Alpha Tech Ventures, a traditional VC fund.

VC funds typically run on their 2% management fee. Have $10m in assets under management, and get $200k a year to run the fund on (including paying GPs and employees). To increase this operating budget, you raise more money from LPs.

When indie.vc had trouble raising more money, it returned to traditional VC. When Calm Company Fund had trouble raising more money, it started conferences and a low-code agency - ostensibly to get more operating budget.

Now that the markets care about profitable businesses, indie.vc has reopened. But, Calm Company Fund has had to deal with fallout from their non-investing activities - and I’m sure they have to disclose the lawsuit to all potential investors which probably scares them away.

So, there’s a lesson here about how VC funds should invest in businesses, not try to create additional revenue lines.

I have utmost respect for Tyler and what he’s been trying to build. He’s excellent at brand building.

(Disclosure: I have a small stake in Calm Company Fund).

Re: Calm Company Fund Is Taking a Break

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post #18

Shutting down without trying to spook their investors or current portfolio companies. Couching it as taking a break seems clever but I’m guessing any seasoned investors will read between the lines and see that this isn’t working. The problem with thinking everyone else is wrong (ie how VCs operate) is that usually it turns out they are not. I’m guessing it wasn’t the story telling prowess of lack of deep connections…

FWIW: I'm an investor in all of Calm's funds (I think I was one of the earliest investors in Fund 1), and have been quite happy with the funds themselves. They've done great — outperforming my own expectations. As indie.vc also found, it's just hard to make these styles of funds work on the business side.

>read between the lines and see that this isn’t working.

No need to "read between the lines", he directly mentions some of the ways it's not working as pleasingly as he would like.

Re: Calm Company Fund Is Taking a Break

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A perspective I've found helpful is to think about a fund as a business, which it is.

Let's assume a hypothetical case of running a $100 million tech investment fund. The first 10-11% of return should go straight to investors (not the manager), for the simple reason that 7-8% is available in the stock market, and unlike the public markets, tech funds are illiquid--unlike investing in SPY, you can't wake up one day and trade out of your interest in a fund like this. You're locked in. That shifts the return expectation upward.

So assuming the manager's cost of equity (what investors demand) is around 10-11%, maybe a great manager can get the return number to 15-16%. That's a pretty good return on the fund but it's only $5 million in absolute gross returns (10->15% on $100 million). Considering the manager might get only 10-20% of this (the rest goes to investors), it's just a lot of work to earn $1 million in performance-based comp, over 2-3 years of active work and perhaps a decade of full fund life. These things are also typically run by teams (several partners) so the returns are split.

The point is that $100 million funds just aren't making their managers rich. The two outcomes of this, which you see over and over, are (1) for managers to try to manage much bigger funds ($500+ million) or (2) big management fees of 2%/year or more, which significantly erode returns.

The net result being, VC is a very hard business that almost always delivers substandard returns to its investors, after long lock-ins with very little liquidity. It's very tough and I'm not surprised to see these guys shutting down.

Re: Calm Company Fund Is Taking a Break

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post #18

Shutting down without trying to spook their investors or current portfolio companies. Couching it as taking a break seems clever but I’m guessing any seasoned investors will read between the lines and see that this isn’t working. The problem with thinking everyone else is wrong (ie how VCs operate) is that usually it turns out they are not. I’m guessing it wasn’t the story telling prowess of lack of deep connections…

FWIW: I'm an investor in all of Calm's funds (I think I was one of the earliest investors in Fund 1), and have been quite happy with the funds themselves. They've done great — outperforming my own expectations. As indie.vc also found, it's just hard to make these styles of funds work on the business side.

> They've done great — outperforming my own expectations

TVPI, I assume?

Re: Calm Company Fund Is Taking a Break

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post #25

If any of you like me had no idea what a Calm company was: https://www.outseta.com/posts/calm seems to explain. In summary - it's about how the company is run - not that they make apps to help you meditate.

Yes this is covered quite clearly in paragraph three of the article we're discussing.

Paragraph 3

> The thesis, developed five years ago, is to invest at the early stage in founders aiming to build capital-efficient profit-focused calm companies. Although this might sound like common sense, it was basically heresy among professional investors five years ago and still remains a deeply non-consensus approach to investing.

That explains what a calm company is?

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