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Im really surprised how obsessed people are with something as arbitrary as the phone manufacturer someone is using. I have no clue what phones my friends and family is using, I barely manage to remember the iPhone generation I am on.
Relative Evaluation Report on S1, iPhone (2010) [pdf]
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Re: Relative Evaluation Report on S1, iPhone (2010) [pdf]
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> The Android platform has zero cultural footprint Who the fuck cares about "cultural footprint"? A phone is a tool, you get the best one for the job, not based on its cultural footprint or how attractive it makes you to superficial people. > it’s unfathomable why a middle to upper class person would buy an expensive Android I can answer that as a person in such a position. Android phones from reputable phone vendors…
> […] it's still impossible to not have all your apps plastered on the home screen, at best in folders, is a mind boggling missing feature in iOS.
You didn’t even try looking, I just checked all the way back to iOS 14 and it was already possible. Yes, it doesn’t change your opinion, but undermines the point you’re making.
Re: Relative Evaluation Report on S1, iPhone (2010) [pdf]
#33... and they didn't leak the 200 ways in which S1 was better than iPhone. By the way, where is Apple's flip-phone?
Yeah, I mean that was the time where Android had a notification tray and iPhone didn't right? Perhaps they have such a document at apple and that's where their tray came from? Was copy/paste possible on the S1? I guess so right? Took a while on iOS. Anyway, props for Samsung for making such a document internally.
No props at all. It’s a completely normal product development artefact. Par for the course, and expected. The other document you hypothesise is called Samsung understanding their USP. Not everything is about some silly 2000s OS holy war. Behind all these tribalist fights are teams of people just…rocking up and building things. This is just how it’s done.
Re: Relative Evaluation Report on S1, iPhone (2010) [pdf]
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
Every company does do it. I'd like to see Apple's 2010 version for comparison. Something like: 1. Samsung has copy and paste
More introspection is needed to get this right. Apple has copy and paste. And they even had a sort of decent text selection at some point (iOS 16?), so their list surely still thinks that this capability is fully functional.
Not sure what you mean, iPhone 1 didn't have it because "[Ken Kocienda] didn’t have time to do it right."
https://twitter.com/kocienda/status/1538536958258909184
Once it was added (2 phones later) it was such a big deal they had an ad for it:
Re: Relative Evaluation Report on S1, iPhone (2010) [pdf]
#35... and they didn't leak the 200 ways in which S1 was better than iPhone. By the way, where is Apple's flip-phone?
This wasn't a leak, it was filed as part of the Apple v. Samsung trial
Re: Relative Evaluation Report on S1, iPhone (2010) [pdf]
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> everyone I’ve seen in real life who use one lack taste [sic]
Thank you for sharing your anecdote. An insight into the ever-growing trend of conspicuous consumption.
Re: Relative Evaluation Report on S1, iPhone (2010) [pdf]
#37Every company should do this. In fact many do. This is called competitor analysis and is the fastest way to motivate employees and start improving things
Also it just looks like fun Engineering. You get to tear apart a whole machine down to every last nut screw and bolt. Then itemize it and approximate the cost to produce.
It's very neat I got to see some of this process during a tour of an auto engineering facility.
Re: Relative Evaluation Report on S1, iPhone (2010) [pdf]
#38It felt like it took a long time for the old guard to swing around to a touch-first interface after spending a decade or so building interfaces meant to be navigated with arrow keys below the screen.
I had the first Android phone, the HTC Dream, and it still had a flip out keyboard and a mini trackball for navigation. I know the attitude among many Android early adopters was that going full touch-screen was bad thing and should be avoided. Apple was right in the end though.
Re: Relative Evaluation Report on S1, iPhone (2010) [pdf]
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> This platform is so undesirable that you'll literally lose dates over it.
If someone can't deal with the fact I have Android phone, I'm not dating them. People have personal preferences and reasons to use one phone manufacturer over the other. I love my Pixel 6a because I've used the interface and gotten used to it for most of my life. I'm also a developer. I've heard developing for iOS is hell. I can make an Android app on my Framework Laptop in Golang and I can sideload and keep the app on my phone forever. It won't go away after 7 days requiring me to do it again.
Re: Relative Evaluation Report on S1, iPhone (2010) [pdf]
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Even now my 4 year old P20 Pro with a Leica lens, takes better photos then my wife newer iphone - whenever it matters she asks me to take the photos as the colours are just better.
I really don't like the apple ecosystem (android is not a lot better, I just hate it less), so it is the only real option I have.