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Relative Evaluation Report on S1, iPhone (2010) [pdf]

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Re: Relative Evaluation Report on S1, iPhone (2010) [pdf]

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Every company should do this. In fact many do. This is called competitor analysis and is the fastest way to motivate employees and start improving things

Every company does do it. I'd like to see Apple's 2010 version for comparison. Something like:

1. Samsung has copy and paste

Re: Relative Evaluation Report on S1, iPhone (2010) [pdf]

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post #9

It felt like it took a long time for the old guard to swing around to a touch-first interface after spending a decade or so building interfaces meant to be navigated with arrow keys below the screen.

The first iPhone was Apple's first attempt at a modern touch screen device too. I think the difference is mainly in the extreme amount of care for details Apple seems to have for everything user related.

Sure—but Apple had the advantage of being able to develop the whole thing fully to their satisfaction before revealing it (jury-rigged initial demo notwithstanding).

Once the iPhone was revealed, everyone else had to scramble to catch up in real time, and many of them tried to just half-ass it—or, as the GP says, just weren't used to the paradigm and took a while to figure out how to do it well.

Re: Relative Evaluation Report on S1, iPhone (2010) [pdf]

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post #7

Every company should do this. In fact many do. This is called competitor analysis and is the fastest way to motivate employees and start improving things

Every company does do it. I'd like to see Apple's 2010 version for comparison. Something like: 1. Samsung has copy and paste

More introspection is needed to get this right. Apple has copy and paste. And they even had a sort of decent text selection at some point (iOS 16?), so their list surely still thinks that this capability is fully functional.

Re: Relative Evaluation Report on S1, iPhone (2010) [pdf]

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> The Android platform has zero cultural footprint Who the fuck cares about "cultural footprint"? A phone is a tool, you get the best one for the job, not based on its cultural footprint or how attractive it makes you to superficial people. > it’s unfathomable why a middle to upper class person would buy an expensive Android I can answer that as a person in such a position. Android phones from reputable phone vendors…

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Re: Relative Evaluation Report on S1, iPhone (2010) [pdf]

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post #3

the screenshots from Samsung look like a high school project compared to the iPhone ones. Granted, Samsung is in a much better place now compared to back then.

I feel like they're in a worse spot because of how many Android competitors they have now. Back in 2010, they were the main 'alternative' to an iPhone, it was basically a duopoly for a few years - Apple vs. Samsung. Now there's the Google Pixel and a million Chinese phone makers so that Samsung doesn't stand out too much. They seem to be leveraging connections with carriers to push Samsung phones, which seems to keep…

I don't recall which year it was, but at least one year back in that general time frame when the financial reports came out, Apple and Samsung together had taken over 100% of the revenue share in the smartphone market: that is, they were making profit (and Apple was making the lion's share), and every single other company in the sector was taking a loss.

Re: Relative Evaluation Report on S1, iPhone (2010) [pdf]

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post #9

It felt like it took a long time for the old guard to swing around to a touch-first interface after spending a decade or so building interfaces meant to be navigated with arrow keys below the screen.

The first iPhone was Apple's first attempt at a modern touch screen device too. I think the difference is mainly in the extreme amount of care for details Apple seems to have for everything user related.

For most other companies, the shift to / focus on touch interfaces was reactive. Apple’s first (mass market) mover advantage allowed them much more time for extensive internal iteration. Remember, they started off with the iPad, err, Newton…at least.

Re: Relative Evaluation Report on S1, iPhone (2010) [pdf]

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> The Android platform has zero cultural footprint Who the fuck cares about "cultural footprint"? A phone is a tool, you get the best one for the job, not based on its cultural footprint or how attractive it makes you to superficial people. > it’s unfathomable why a middle to upper class person would buy an expensive Android I can answer that as a person in such a position. Android phones from reputable phone vendors…

I think OP is an idiot for judging people with iPhones but just to be clear:

> How I open apps? I have the main ones on my home screen, and for everything else I double tap the home button, and type (the start of) the name.

On the iPhone you can have your main apps on the Home Screen or swipe downwards and start typing. Basically exactly what you have.

I'm not arguing that this one feature makes iOS an unbeatable platform or anything but the reality is that you (and all of us) are intimately familiar with one UI pattern and are a stranger to the other. That doesn't make the other "wrong" or "bad", it's just not what you're used to. And it's absolutely fine to keep with the pattern you know, but dismissing anything else is being for "kids" or whatever comes across as tedious whining.

Re: Relative Evaluation Report on S1, iPhone (2010) [pdf]

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Because the expensive android phone may have more desirable characteristics in screen size, camera, battery, form factor (my gf loves foldables e.g.) that would be some examples that come out of my head.

Getting into more niche examples: I'm one of those people you describe. I have been locked out my apple id for months (despite having any information required to recover my account) when my iPad with the authenticator broke.

I couldn't even work on my MBP, they just kept sending me emails they were gonna phone/sms me two weeks after. Which they didn't twice and they only recovered my account at the third shot. 0 ways to speak with any human, obviously.

Other examples: I'm a software developer, I want to tinker and write my applications. It was always way more difficult on iOS than Android.

Also, another thing: Android/iPhone in 2024 this barely means jackshit, in fact any $300 chinese android phone is more than perfect for 99.99% of users.

> you’ll literally lose dates over it

I feel like it's a great way to weed out idiocy out of my life.

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