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A new term, ‘slop’, has emerged to describe dubious A.I.-generated material

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Re: A new term, ‘slop’, has emerged to describe dubious A.I.-generated material

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Post by saltminer »

lux wrote: post #79
duxup wrote: post #14

Slop seems like a good term for unwanted AI generated content. But I wonder how much this is AI and how much we've sort of curated a slop pattern even before AI: - Video game tips web pages with massive chunks of text / ads before you get to the inevitable answer of "hit A when X happens". - The horrendous mess that Quora became with technically correct in some ways but also misleading answers to historical content.…

The endless drivel of recipe websites is another one, burying the actual recipe under an absolute mountain of slop.

LPT: Recipe Filter is shockingly good at cutting out all the filler and presenting it in an easy-to-read format

https://github.com/sean-public/RecipeFilter

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Post by s1artibartfast »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #215
s1artibartfast wrote: post #189

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Real content doesnt necessarily mean advertising free. There are tons of high quality pages and services funded by ads. The problem is with the spam and slop. Any sucessful walled garden will need to keep this crap out. banning adds is just one way. Content review is another.

> Real content doesnt necessarily mean advertising free. There are tons of high quality pages and services funded by ads. There are some, but it's a rounding error compared to the ad-funded slop. Basing your business model around advertising creates strong perverse incentives, pitting you against your users/customers. Sometimes, a company gets enough return on advertising investment they can fund side ventures off th…

>Right, but they're complementary. Content review gets easier when you cut out 99% of crap at the source by fiat, and with a hard line drawn, the reviewers are much harder for marketers to compromise either.

Agreed. Walled gardens cut out the crap. Invitation only.

Re: A new term, ‘slop’, has emerged to describe dubious A.I.-generated material

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Post by atrettel »

antifa wrote: post #217

Slop is not a new term, it refers to content people like (perjoratively, similar to how fast food is something people like) but for whatever reason (low brow? bad for you? clickbait? lowest common denominator?) should not be classified as good quality content. This slang is older than AI, possibly by decades.

Yes, this is not a new term. It's not hard to find earlier examples of the term "social media slop" to refer to endless posts on social media. A simple Google search for this reveals many examples of this particular term before 2022. I remember the term "slop" being used in the context of social media as a play on the idea of the "feed" giving you mass quantities of low-quality hogwash, etc.

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Post by cess11 »

wy35 wrote: post #168
cess11 wrote: post #127

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Then, to me, it's spam. The only times I've asked for fake text generated by a computer I stitched together some markov chain library and a corpus myself, and then it was to make the point that some people are so badly affected by ads and political propaganda that their contributions to the texts of humanity could easily be replaced by my code.

Ok, think about it like this. It's your anniversary with your partner so you decide to commission a drawing from an artist as a gift. However, when you receive it, it's clearly an AI-generated image that was printed out. Would you still consider that "spam"?

Yes. I also call the music-reminiscent sounds played in shops in malls spam.

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Post by cess11 »

pmtcc wrote: post #134
cess11 wrote: post #127

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Then, to me, it's spam. The only times I've asked for fake text generated by a computer I stitched together some markov chain library and a corpus myself, and then it was to make the point that some people are so badly affected by ads and political propaganda that their contributions to the texts of humanity could easily be replaced by my code.

The problem is that sometimes slop looks like content from a far enough distance. And to the untrained eye, it is indistinguishable from real content. For example, a Kafka tutorial could start with pages about other irrelevant technology before getting to the real material. But you wouldn't know which content is useless at first.

Could you define "content"?

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Post by cess11 »

jl6 wrote: post #138
cess11 wrote: post #93

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"There's just obscenely more high quality new-to-you content" Are you sure about this? How are you measuring quality? For me, if something resembles advertising I consider it to be of very low quality. There are some exceptions, for example some of the movie work by Roy Andersson, but they are very few. As far as I can tell, ad-discourse and ad-style permeates pretty much everything in contemporary "content". Every t…

Even if a super-Sturgeon's-Law holds at a 10000:1 crap:quality ratio, there's still overwhelmingly so much stuff out there, produced over so many generations of talented writers, artists, musicians and directors, that you'd have to be unreasonably picky not to be able to fill a whole lifetime of consumption with enjoyable content. It's only our predilection for novelty that keeps the content mills going, and I wonder…

Seems to me you're conflating the excretions of the entertainment industry with culture.

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Post by forgotmypwlol »

hotdogscout wrote: post #207
atomicnumber3 wrote: post #133

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4chan has been calling things "slop" for literally so long I can't remember when it started. If you go to /g/ literally right now, ctrl F slop, 4 hits just on the front page previews. If anything, it originally started as calling things "goyslop", which you might be able to deduce is a portmanteau of "goyim" and "slop", the implication (given it's 4chan) of course being that it's low-quality stuff made by Jews that i…

"Goyslop" as an insult is less about anti-semitism and more about how Jews are allegedly injecting anti-white multiculturalism (ex: DEI) in entertainment. So things that are woke get called goyslop (as opposed to Jewish as you imply).

Sounds pretty antisemitic, and also paranoid schizophrenic.

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Post by compiler1410 »

forgotmypwlol wrote: post #229
hotdogscout wrote: post #207

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Goyslop" as an insult is less about anti-semitism and more about how Jews are allegedly injecting anti-white multiculturalism (ex: DEI) in entertainment. So things that are woke get called goyslop (as opposed to Jewish as you imply).

Sounds pretty antisemitic, and also paranoid schizophrenic.

This antisemitism, is it in the room with us right now?
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