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Re: Show HN: Markdown HN profiles at {user}.at.hn

#161

Post by krapp » Tue, Jun 11, 2024, 11:24 AM UTC

GeoAtreides wrote: post #160

krapp wrote: post #159

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There are already numerous third party sites that crawl HN and use its API. Your comments here are public, no one needs your permission to use them.

So if you put a photo up on instagram I can yoink it and use it as I see fit? I suggest reading the legal print: https://www.ycombinator.com/legal/ > By uploading any User Content you hereby grant and will grant Y Combinator and its affiliated companies a nonexclusive, worldwide, royalty free, fully paid up, transferable, sublicensable, perpetual, irrevocable license to copy, display, upload, perform, distribute, sto…

>So if you put a photo up on instagram I can yoink it and use it as I see fit?

We're talking about Hacker News, not Instagram.

>It says here I grant Y combinator (and its affiliated companies; hm...) a licence, not that I grant it to some rando with a scrapper (or using an API).

And yet Hacker News has an API and plenty of people use it, implying that Hacker News considers the use of its own API to be valid within the context of its "license" and by extension any application also using the API.

Feel free to lawyer up and sue, though, and let us know how it goes. I don't think it'll go as well as you seem to believe.

Re: Show HN: Markdown HN profiles at {user}.at.hn

#162

Post by GeoAtreides » Tue, Jun 11, 2024, 11:38 AM UTC

krapp wrote: post #161

GeoAtreides wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So if you put a photo up on instagram I can yoink it and use it as I see fit? I suggest reading the legal print: https://www.ycombinator.com/legal/ > By uploading any User Content you hereby grant and will grant Y Combinator and its affiliated companies a nonexclusive, worldwide, royalty free, fully paid up, transferable, sublicensable, perpetual, irrevocable license to copy, display, upload, perform, distribute, sto…

>So if you put a photo up on instagram I can yoink it and use it as I see fit? We're talking about Hacker News, not Instagram. >It says here I grant Y combinator (and its affiliated companies; hm...) a licence, not that I grant it to some rando with a scrapper (or using an API). And yet Hacker News has an API and plenty of people use it, implying that Hacker News considers the use of its own API to be valid within th…

Sure, HN is not instagram, but user content is user content. And user content is subjected to copyright laws.

The mere fact the API exist doesn't necessarily mean it's legal or that it respect copyright laws. It just means nobody legally tested it yet.

My suspicion is that a licence granted to entity only extends to that entity, even if that entity provides content via html or json.

Re: Show HN: Markdown HN profiles at {user}.at.hn

#163

Post by mikeqq2024 » Tue, Jun 11, 2024, 11:45 AM UTC

ilaksh wrote: post #84

How hard is it to export all of the comments someone has written on HN? I have been thinking about converting my HN comment history into something like a blog. Each entry would show the title of the submission, link if applicable, and the comment and link to comment thread. Maybe you could provide that service for a small fee. https://github.com/runvnc/hncomments

Is there notification mechanism for hn when someone comments after you or @you?

Re: Show HN: Markdown HN profiles at {user}.at.hn

#164

Post by mikeqq2024 » Tue, Jun 11, 2024, 11:48 AM UTC

padolsey wrote: post #150

jimbobthrowawy wrote: post #141

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pg was added too, first one I tried. I had assumed it was a growth-strategy thing, but testing makes more sense. Surprised to see one of these kinds of sites be opt-in. Most things I see using HN data are real loosey goosey about it.

OP here. Ugh yeh it was an error to add those as, for a brief time, the line checking that their bio had the slug in it was commented out, so for around an hour last night, if people checked those profiles, they succeeded. But those states are stale now, or should be soon.

,op living between bj and london,,which part of bj?

Re: Show HN: Markdown HN profiles at {user}.at.hn

#165

Post by serverlord » Tue, Jun 11, 2024, 5:43 PM UTC

I enabled it as well but I have no clue how to gain Karma. Any feedback would help.

Re: Show HN: Markdown HN profiles at {user}.at.hn

#166

Post by padolsey » Wed, Jun 12, 2024, 2:23 AM UTC

mikeqq2024 wrote: post #164

padolsey wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OP here. Ugh yeh it was an error to add those as, for a brief time, the line checking that their bio had the slug in it was commented out, so for around an hour last night, if people checked those profiles, they succeeded. But those states are stale now, or should be soon.

,op living between bj and london,,which part of bj?

dongzhimen :)

Re: Show HN: Markdown HN profiles at {user}.at.hn

#167

Post by [deleted] » Wed, Jun 12, 2024, 4:33 PM UTC

neilv wrote: post #91

Just be a little careful, or the OnlyFans people might hear there's a new "social" where they can promote. (For example: LLM-assisted forum presence, combined with profiles with oh, hey there, I have an OF, lol, combined with tech industry disposable incomes... I'd guess would pick up a couple new whales worth the effort. Now that Reddit presumably has been picked clean.)

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Re: Show HN: Markdown HN profiles at {user}.at.hn

#168

Post by SushiHippie » Wed, Jun 12, 2024, 9:22 PM UTC

krapp wrote: post #158

SushiHippie wrote: post #104

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Using the algolia api https://hn.algolia.com/api/v1/search?tags=author_ilaksh,comm... You'll need to paginate it, as it's limited to 50 results per page, like so: https://hn.algolia.com/api/v1/search?tags=author_ilaksh,comment&hitsPerPage=50&page=1

Or HN's actual API, which isn't rate limited: https://github.com/HackerNews/API

Yes, but with the algolia API, you'll need to make way fewer requests, as you'll get up to 50 comments per API call + you also get the title and URL of the post where this comment was posted in the same call.

Re: Show HN: Markdown HN profiles at {user}.at.hn

#169

Post by derefr » Wed, Jun 12, 2024, 10:28 PM UTC

notpushkin wrote: post #152

derefr wrote: post #135

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I don't think people discovering these profiles on HN is the concern here. The true problem with OF models is due to an iterated mutual tit-for-tat strategy between OF models and popular groups on social media platforms: 1. OF models (or people acting on their behalf) want to promote themselves using popular groups/pages/channels on social-networks — they spam posts to these places, seeming to be authentic engagement…

I am wondering why we don't see more OF models using custom domains instead. $10/yr shouldn't be too big of a price for them. Perhaps those About You page services don't support that?

I'm guessing it's because they think that even with a custom domain, some deep headless-Chrome-scraper-based OF-link scanning (or just human flagging!) will catch on and get them blocked within a few weeks anyway. Which would make the $10/yr for a custom domain, more like $10 per time-you-get-caught.

It's the same reason that scammers/spammers rely on these services: the only hosting you can "acquire scalably" is free subdomain hosting.

(Now, why they don't use something like a Google Doc, that can't be blocked based on its URL and can't easily be text-extracted by a scraping bot? I have no idea.)