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Why today's phones are so boooooring?

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Re: Why today's phones are so boooooring?

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The article author ignores how little those old phones could actually do, and how much of a pain in the ass it reliably was to get them to actually do most of it. I understand why; none of that would go to his point. But I was also there. Boring is good in technology. It means you don't have to think about it much, and that usually means it is doing its job.

> The article author ignores how little those old phones could actually do I wish there was a phone on the market that did as little as those phones did. It appears, however, that if you want a cell phone at all, it has to be a smartphone ("feature phones" are just gimped smartphones).

Yes, the world has moved on. As I understand it, the primary market these days for what a decade back we'd call a "feature phone" is elders perhaps entering cognitive decline, or otherwise better served by a device not capable of the default levels of annoyance. (It makes sense! I've had a smartphone since 2012, and have spent every one of those dozen years getting more skillful at frustrating its software suppliers' desire to pester me. I'm quite good at that now, but God help me with whatever's novel twenty or thirty years hence...)

It would not surprise me to see this change over the next decade or so. On the one hand, 5G will probably remain the dominant radio scheme for at least that long, so that there'll be less pressure on device manufacturers for constant hardware changes to provide basic functionality. And on the other, the mounting backlash against the current iteration of the tech industry and specifically the harms it inflicts on children (1) may well develop into a movement toward ensuring connectivity while structurally limiting the sort of access required for algorithmic exploitation - which seems like very naturally opening a niche for the sort of device you prefer. Such a genre of phone may not partake of the sort of design language you might prefer, and it will of course be overpriced as any luxury good, but in functionality I suspect it'll come quite close to satisfaction.

(1) Haidt et al.; I disagree with almost his every prescription and don't at all trust the company he keeps, but I can't argue with his identification of the problem.

Re: Why today's phones are so boooooring?

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post #23

I love how the Nothing Phone and earbuds look. The design is exciting, it’s opinionated and has techwear style. If it was an iPhone in the ways that matter to me, I would buy one in a heartbeat. Take a scroll on their website. https://us.nothing.tech/ https://us.nothing.tech/pages/phone-2?variant=42721597718680 Asus ROG Phone has an optional active cooling fan you can attach to the back of the phone, and side mounted…

> active cooling fan

Nubia or RedMagic has a active fan inside the phone.

Re: Why today's phones are so boooooring?

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post #15

To be honest I think that it's good direction. Why one should be excited about a phone or a pair of headphones? It's a tool like a hammer, shovel etc. There is one more angle - when it's boring it's more environmentally friendly, there is much less incentive to buy new shiny, blinking toy when it mostly looks and works just like old toy.

Because smartphone should be smarter everyday. We should expect it can do yet another trick in the next generation.

Re: Why today's phones are so boooooring?

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Because accustomization and normalizations removes the awe from what at first were amazing achievements. It’s the standard expectation creep effect. What’s novel or exciting today is boring tomorrow.

Try showing today’s phones to someone in 1994.

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As to the article’s example of headphones as an example of a product that has interesting variation - I am not getting the same impression.

The headphones all look essentially the same with a slightly different case style - in other words if those headphones are exciting then a phone can be made exciting by buying an artsy case. Problem solved.

Actually, personalized phone cases are way better than the manufactures providing a non-customizable case like the headphone cases to. Both are wrapping a tiny bit of visual style around a standard product. But for phones one can choose from an almost unlimited number of variations if one so chooses, for headphones it’s only a couple options per brand.

Re: Why today's phones are so boooooring?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I remember as a young lad being taught that one of the virtues of a consumer society was that there was enough production variety that everyone could find a product that meets their needs. Weird that smartphones are the exception.

There's enough app variety to meet your needs. Phones are now just basic pipes to those apps.

But what I want is a phone incapable of running apps. I just want a phone that acts as a phone, does SMS, and ideally has physical number pad.

Re: Why today's phones are so boooooring?

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post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's enough app variety to meet your needs. Phones are now just basic pipes to those apps.

But what I want is a phone incapable of running apps. I just want a phone that acts as a phone, does SMS, and ideally has physical number pad.

Where do you live? Plenty of companies today sell 4G/LTE capable dumbphones or featurephones as they're called, including Nokia.

Re: Why today's phones are so boooooring?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it like the Microsoft Surface Duo ? Those seem awesome for multi tasking productivity on the go and people with ADHD. Shame they're way too niche and don't appeal too the masses therefore end up being canceled.

Never used Microsoft Duo. LG is like having two computer with two mouse. You can game in one hand while scrolling facebook on the other hand.

>You can game in one hand while scrolling facebook on the other hand.

Like I said, that's an ADHD person's dream.

Re: Why today's phones are so boooooring?

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The article author ignores how little those old phones could actually do, and how much of a pain in the ass it reliably was to get them to actually do most of it. I understand why; none of that would go to his point. But I was also there. Boring is good in technology. It means you don't have to think about it much, and that usually means it is doing its job.

> Boring is good in technology. It means you don't have to think about it much, and that usually means it is doing its job.

Phones have gone from being gadgets to being appliances.

Re: Why today's phones are so boooooring?

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post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's enough app variety to meet your needs. Phones are now just basic pipes to those apps.

But what I want is a phone incapable of running apps. I just want a phone that acts as a phone, does SMS, and ideally has physical number pad.

Get a low spec phone. It’ll be incompatible with a bunch of apps and run most apps so poorly that you won’t want to use them.

Unihertz makes several phones that roughly fit your needs

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