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Starbucks: Is trouble brewing at the coffee giant?

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Re: Starbucks: Is trouble brewing at the coffee giant?

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Not sure if it's an issue localised to Ireland, but I've avoided Starbucks since I started seriously drinking coffee - not because of the price, but any cup I've had (and they're more akin to buckets) has had that bitter finish that over roasted/burnt beans bring to the table. Still the way Dublin is going, it's going to be hard to avoid places like Starbucks, Cafe Nero etc. soon - smaller places being priced out of the market.

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Not sure if it's an issue localised to Ireland, but I've avoided Starbucks since I started seriously drinking coffee - not because of the price, but any cup I've had (and they're more akin to buckets) has had that bitter finish that over roasted/burnt beans bring to the table. Still the way Dublin is going, it's going to be hard to avoid places like Starbucks, Cafe Nero etc. soon - smaller places being priced out of…

Don't remember where I heard it, but I was told that Starbucks has actually decent quality beans that they overroast way too far. What a waste. Your experience seems to agree with what I heard.

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Not sure if it's an issue localised to Ireland, but I've avoided Starbucks since I started seriously drinking coffee - not because of the price, but any cup I've had (and they're more akin to buckets) has had that bitter finish that over roasted/burnt beans bring to the table. Still the way Dublin is going, it's going to be hard to avoid places like Starbucks, Cafe Nero etc. soon - smaller places being priced out of…

Don't remember where I heard it, but I was told that Starbucks has actually decent quality beans that they overroast way too far. What a waste. Your experience seems to agree with what I heard.

I think over roasting allows companies to sell beans from different regions/sources as one batch. Can't tell the difference when everything has the same burnt consistency.

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Not sure if it's an issue localised to Ireland, but I've avoided Starbucks since I started seriously drinking coffee - not because of the price, but any cup I've had (and they're more akin to buckets) has had that bitter finish that over roasted/burnt beans bring to the table. Still the way Dublin is going, it's going to be hard to avoid places like Starbucks, Cafe Nero etc. soon - smaller places being priced out of…

What about Blonde Roast? It's whole lot smoother in my opinion.

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Don't remember where I heard it, but I was told that Starbucks has actually decent quality beans that they overroast way too far. What a waste. Your experience seems to agree with what I heard.

I think over roasting allows companies to sell beans from different regions/sources as one batch. Can't tell the difference when everything has the same burnt consistency.

That's a pity, sacrificing quality and end user experience to squeeze another dollar out of the system. Reminds me of Cadbury chocolate, when I was a kid it was incredible - a real treat. Now it's waxy mush full of palm oil, all to squeeze more profits.

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Not sure if it's an issue localised to Ireland, but I've avoided Starbucks since I started seriously drinking coffee - not because of the price, but any cup I've had (and they're more akin to buckets) has had that bitter finish that over roasted/burnt beans bring to the table. Still the way Dublin is going, it's going to be hard to avoid places like Starbucks, Cafe Nero etc. soon - smaller places being priced out of…

Yep, it is the same in Berlin. There are local roasteries such as The Barn who make amazing coffee drinks from lightly roasted beans. The coffee has almost a fruity taste, it is so good.

I just got back from the US and had Starbucks a few times. The coffee was almost an exact opposite from that. Bitter, bland and burnt. Luckily we visited Seattle that has some good coffee culture still left, but I really don't get the popularity of Starbucks.

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Don't remember where I heard it, but I was told that Starbucks has actually decent quality beans that they overroast way too far. What a waste. Your experience seems to agree with what I heard.

I think over roasting allows companies to sell beans from different regions/sources as one batch. Can't tell the difference when everything has the same burnt consistency.

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Not sure if it's an issue localised to Ireland, but I've avoided Starbucks since I started seriously drinking coffee - not because of the price, but any cup I've had (and they're more akin to buckets) has had that bitter finish that over roasted/burnt beans bring to the table. Still the way Dublin is going, it's going to be hard to avoid places like Starbucks, Cafe Nero etc. soon - smaller places being priced out of…

Yep, it is the same in Berlin. There are local roasteries such as The Barn who make amazing coffee drinks from lightly roasted beans. The coffee has almost a fruity taste, it is so good. I just got back from the US and had Starbucks a few times. The coffee was almost an exact opposite from that. Bitter, bland and burnt. Luckily we visited Seattle that has some good coffee culture still left, but I really don't get th…

Given how popular it is, I have to assume that Americans simply like coffee that way.

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Yep, it is the same in Berlin. There are local roasteries such as The Barn who make amazing coffee drinks from lightly roasted beans. The coffee has almost a fruity taste, it is so good. I just got back from the US and had Starbucks a few times. The coffee was almost an exact opposite from that. Bitter, bland and burnt. Luckily we visited Seattle that has some good coffee culture still left, but I really don't get th…

Given how popular it is, I have to assume that Americans simply like coffee that way.

I'm an American although not a big fan of Starbucks (I like to brew my coffee at home), but I definitely prefer dark roasted coffee and buy my beans that way.
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