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Why Triplebyte Failed

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Re: Why Triplebyte Failed

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I liked this piece - excellent high-level thinking through the available market opportunities, especially given the constraint of venture capital. And the moral framework is down-to-earth: nothing wrong with ambition and risk even when things go south, paired with a buck-stops-here attitude.

I'd bet good money OtherBranch will succeed.

Re: Why Triplebyte Failed

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I took their quiz without thinking once from a throwaway account because I was afraid of taking it from a real account and also because I had no context about what would be in it, which made it seem high risk. That made me realize it wasn't as scary a thing as I was afraid it might be, but also kind of summerizes what I don't love about it. Later, I think I took the quiz from a real email. I think could have schedule…

I went through their process for frontend like 6 years ago and got to the in person interview and it was the most inane BS I have ever wasted time on. A bunch of questions like listing "best practices for X and tell me about .

Re: Why Triplebyte Failed

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Oooh, this lets me tell a great anecdote that didn't have a place in the post. So it turns out you were not alone. Getting people who did well on the quiz - whose parameters were trained on interview performance, by the way, so "did well on the quiz" was synonymous with "had a good shot at the interview" - to sign up for interviews was a major problem for a while. The solution? We told them the first booking was just…

I've never had two in-person interviews that were at all similar in any way. Maybe instead of a 'practice' interview people can just be told what to expect so they know how to prepare. Offering practice interviews just makes it sound like the interview is a performance.

I think practice interviews can still be helpful. Some of the reasons I’ve seen candidates blow an interview boil down to nerves. I think practice interviews help in these situations as things that are more familiar tend to be less nerve wracking.

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I'd say it's the exact opposite. There are hordes of unqualified people applying to every software dev role imaginable regardless of what you put in the job description or requirements. The tests are there because people are good at lying but bad at faking skills.

Seriously, if you've never hired before, you have no idea how bad this can get. Here's [1] our practice coding problem. It's quite similar to the one we use on our interview, and not too far from the one Triplebyte used in the past (ours is tuned to be slightly harder at the beginning and slightly easier at the end). The vast majority of candidates, even with some reasonable pre-filtering, do not get past the first s…

That is the sort of coding problem I would love to work on as an exercise however the 25 minute time limit would put me off and I wouldn't even start. I enjoy programming and I don't like to feel rushed, and if you're placing that sort of time constraint then you probably aren't a great company to work for.

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I have and you are right, it's terrible. However, I'm coming from Ops side of the house so my knowledge on Dev Hiring is talking to them and making sure they are not going to launch LedgerStore without talking to us first. Ops I'm more experienced with. However, looking at Other Branch example test, it's another data structure question which I would totally bomb. Is this really the end all be all to dev hiring? If th…

You consider that a "data structure question"? Honest question - I would (do) characterize it as a sort of "fizzbuzz+" that is deliberately NOT data-structure-y, and I'm surprised by this response. Can you give an example of short coding tasks you would consider not data-structure-y? (For the record, we do ask about DBs and system design in other sections of the interview. The coding is one portion of three for the i…

Minesweeper is all about storing data about the board and displaying the numbers is all about running through data. Seems very data structurey to me but maybe that's non heavy dev side coming through.

Maybe I'm just thinking too much problem, overloaded my small attention brain and misread it. I wouldn't call Fizzbuzz data structure-y however.

I'm also mostly outsider looking in. Never worked at FAANG and working with YC companies, I come on much later and tends to be more keeping the lights on and stopping the duct tape rocket from exploding.

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I have and you are right, it's terrible. However, I'm coming from Ops side of the house so my knowledge on Dev Hiring is talking to them and making sure they are not going to launch LedgerStore without talking to us first. Ops I'm more experienced with. However, looking at Other Branch example test, it's another data structure question which I would totally bomb. Is this really the end all be all to dev hiring? If th…

You consider that a "data structure question"? Honest question - I would (do) characterize it as a sort of "fizzbuzz+" that is deliberately NOT data-structure-y, and I'm surprised by this response. Can you give an example of short coding tasks you would consider not data-structure-y? (For the record, we do ask about DBs and system design in other sections of the interview. The coding is one portion of three for the i…

I think its because the person is thinking you are looking for something especially smart when in fact something like a list of lists would be fine enough, if you can explain the tradeoffs for using them.

Edit: beaten, yes they were overthinking it.

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post #176

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You consider that a "data structure question"? Honest question - I would (do) characterize it as a sort of "fizzbuzz+" that is deliberately NOT data-structure-y, and I'm surprised by this response. Can you give an example of short coding tasks you would consider not data-structure-y? (For the record, we do ask about DBs and system design in other sections of the interview. The coding is one portion of three for the i…

I think its because the person is thinking you are looking for something especially smart when in fact something like a list of lists would be fine enough, if you can explain the tradeoffs for using them. Edit: beaten, yes they were overthinking it.

Yep. Am bad at Dev. Pretty good at making sure Kubernetes cluster doesn't implode though.

Re: Why Triplebyte Failed

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Would be interesting to hear Rachel's take on all the contract recruiting (?) firms that claim to do the same thing, test candidates and then provide them to employers- just on remote contracts for temp work. The OG in this space is Toptal, but there seems to be a lot of VC money in a bunch of upstarts in this space. They all say 'we screen our developers through an extremely rigorous yada yada process'. They tend to have a lot of developing world talent. Not sure if that's the future of online talent platforms or what have you

Re: Why Triplebyte Failed

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I have and you are right, it's terrible. However, I'm coming from Ops side of the house so my knowledge on Dev Hiring is talking to them and making sure they are not going to launch LedgerStore without talking to us first. Ops I'm more experienced with. However, looking at Other Branch example test, it's another data structure question which I would totally bomb. Is this really the end all be all to dev hiring? If th…

You consider that a "data structure question"? Honest question - I would (do) characterize it as a sort of "fizzbuzz+" that is deliberately NOT data-structure-y, and I'm surprised by this response. Can you give an example of short coding tasks you would consider not data-structure-y? (For the record, we do ask about DBs and system design in other sections of the interview. The coding is one portion of three for the i…

the problem is embedding game logic (game rules) into the matrix, which is a data structure, hence it is a data structure question

Re: Why Triplebyte Failed

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There's a funny contrast between the beginning where they want a meritocracy of candidates and the end, where they are only interested in Americans from prestigious universities.

Interesting you should say that. I'm neither American nor from a prestigious university, though I had a lot of success with Triplebyte towards the end (as a candidate)
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