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Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by lancesells »

burningChrome wrote: post #303

Am I only person who's reached their threshold on companies forcing and shoving AI into every layer and corner of our lives? I don't even look at this stuff any more and see the upside to any of it. AI went from, "This is kinda cool and quaint." to "You NEED this in every single aspect of your life, whether you want it or not." AI has become so pervasive and intrusive, I stopped seeing the benefits of any of this.

I feel like this WWDC kind of solidified that these corporations really don't know what to do with AI or aren't creative enough. Apple presented much better AI features that weren't called AI than the "summarize my email" and "generate an ugly airbrushed picture you buy at the mall kiosk to send to your mom".

All of these "make your life easier" features really show that no tech is making our lives simpler. Task creation is maybe easier but task completion doesn't seem to be in the cards. "Hey siri, summarize my daughters play and let me know when it is and how to get there" shows there's something fundamentally missing in the way we're living.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by pmarreck »

TechnicolorByte wrote: post #153

Have to say, I was thoroughly impressed by what Apple showed today with all this Personal AI stuff. And it proves that the real power of consumer AI will be in the hands of the platform owners where you have most of your digital life in already (Apple or Google for messaging, mail, photos, apps; Microsoft for work and/or life). The way Siri can now perform actions based on context from emails and messages like settin…

> The way Siri can now perform actions based on context

Given that this will apparently drop... next year at the earliest?... I think it's simply quite a tease, for now.

I literally had to install a keyboard extension to my iPhone just to get Whisper speech to text, which is thousands of times better at dictation than Siri at this point, which seems about 10 years behind the curve

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by epolanski »

asimpletune wrote: post #162

Their demos looked like how I imagined AI before ChatGPT ever existed. It was a personalized, context aware, deeply integrated way of interacting with your whole system. I really enjoyed the explanation for how they planned on tackling server-enabled AI tasks while making the best possible effort to keep your requests private. Auditable server software that runs on Apple hardware is probably as good as you can get fo…

> There was one demo where you could talk to Siri about your mom and it would understand the context because of stuff that she (your mom) had written in one of her emails to you... that's the kind of stuff that I think we all imagined an AI world would look like.

I can't but feel all of this super creepy.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by acjohnson55 »

burningChrome wrote: post #303

Am I only person who's reached their threshold on companies forcing and shoving AI into every layer and corner of our lives? I don't even look at this stuff any more and see the upside to any of it. AI went from, "This is kinda cool and quaint." to "You NEED this in every single aspect of your life, whether you want it or not." AI has become so pervasive and intrusive, I stopped seeing the benefits of any of this.

I'm resistant, too. I think from a number of reasons:

- So far, the quality has been very hit or miss, versus places where I intentionally invoke generative AI.

- I'm not ready to relinquish my critical thinking to AI, both from a general perspective, and also because it's developed by big companies who may have different values and interests than me.

- It feels like they're trying to get me to "just take a taste", like a bunch of pushers.

- I just want more/better of the right type of features, not a bunch of inscrutable magic.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by doctorpangloss »

insane_dreamer wrote: post #318
doctorpangloss wrote: post #230

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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> AKA there would be a way to choose backends. I think the percentage of iPhone users for who this would matter is very small. It's similar to how many people care about using a different browser than Safari on iOS (or Chrome on Google): in the US at least, those two browsers have ~95% market share.

> I think the percentage of iPhone users for who this would matter is very small.

Oh yeah? Then why don't they permit you to choose an App Store, a browser, a messenger, a blah blah blah...

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by unshavedyak »

electriclove wrote: post #301
whalee wrote: post #278

I am deeply disturbed they decided to go off-device for these services to work. This is a terrible precedent, seemingly inconsistent with their previous philosophies and likely a pressured decision. I don't care if they put the word "private" in there or have an endless amount of "expert" audits. What a shame.

I like their approach. Do everything possible on device and if it can only be done off-device, provide that choice.

Are they giving us a choice? I thought the choice was primarily about using ChatGPT? It sounded like everything in apples "Private Cloud" was being considered fully private.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by coob »

SoftTalker wrote: post #288
davidbarker wrote: post #143

So, if I've got this correct there's: 1. On-device AI 2. AI using Apple's servers 3. AI using ChatGPT/OpenAI's services (and others in the future) Number 1 will pass to number 2 if it thinks it requires the extra processing power, but number 3 will only be invoked with explicit user permission. [Edit: As pointed out below, other providers will be coming eventually.]

I see no real difference between 2 and 3. Once the data has left your device, it has left your device. There is no getting it back and you no longer have any control over it.

Most people are happy for (2) already - iCloud Photos, Device backups, iCloud Messages… email.

Those that won’t use those won’t use this either.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by samatman »

buildbot wrote: post #268
maz1b wrote: post #170

Gotta say, from a branding point of view, it's completely perfect. Sometimes things as "small" as the letters in a companies name can have a huge impact decades down the road. AI == AI, and that's how Apple is going to play it. That bit at the end where it said "AI for the rest of us" is a great way to capture the moment, and probably suggests where Apple is going to go. imo, apple will gain expertise to serve a mons…

Yeah I feel like we are getting the crumbs for a future hardware announcement, like M4 ultra. They’ll announce it like “we are so happy to share our latest and greatest processor, a processor so powerful, we’ve been using it in our private AI cloud. We are pleased to announce the M4 Ultra”

It was speculated when the M4 was released only for the iPad Pro that it might be out of an internal need on Apple's part for the bulk of the chips being manufactured. This latest set of announcements gives substantial weight to that theory.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by tsunamifury »

Jtsummers wrote: post #333
tsunamifury wrote: post #290

This isn't about giving Apple intelligence, this is about giving ChatGPT an understanding of the world via the eyes, ears, and thoughts on your phone.

> This isn't about giving Apple intelligence, this is about giving ChatGPT an understanding of the world via the eyes, ears, and thoughts on your phone. Except it doesn't do that. The ChatGPT integration is via Siri and opt-in (you ask Siri something, it prompts you to send that prompt to ChatGPT). The rest of the LLM and ML features are on device or in Apple's cloud (which is not OpenAI's cloud). The ChatGPT integra…

Yea, I worked in partnership with apple for years. I dont know what else to tell you except they lie through their teeth about privacy all the time.
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