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Re: OpenAI and Apple Announce Partnership

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Post by MangoCoffee »

blueelephanttea wrote: post #24

IMO this really feels like the Facebook / Twitter integration from early iOS. That only lasted a few years. Apple clearly thinks it needs a dedicated LLM service atm. But still thinks it is only supplemental as they handle a bunch of the core stuff without it. And require explicit user consent to use OpenAI. And Apple clearly views it as a partial commodity since they even said they plan to add others. Tough to bet a…

It's a win for OpenAI and AI. I remember someone on Hacker News commented that OpenAI is a company searching for a market. This move might prove that AI, and OpenAI, has a legitimate way to be used and profitable. We'll see.

Re: OpenAI and Apple Announce Partnership

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Post by B1FF_PSUVM »

zug_zug wrote: post #54

This sounds like exactly what I wanted. There have been a number of times I've been in the car and wanting to ask Siri something it couldn't handle has been a lot e.g. "What state am I in, and how far am I to the border to the state I'm going to cross next, and can I pump my own gas on each state I'm driving through?" Though a bit of that is premised on whether it could extract information from google maps.

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Re: OpenAI and Apple Announce Partnership

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Post by rvz »

mvdtnz wrote: post #26

I still don't know a single person who wants this crap. I don't want "AI" in my web browser, I don't want it in my email client, I don't want it on my phone, I just don't want it. And it feels like everyone I speak to agrees! So who is this all for?

> So who is this all for?

It is for everyone and the rest of us. Like it or not.

"AI" cannot be stopped.

Re: OpenAI and Apple Announce Partnership

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Post by philsnow »

~~This is not the direction I was hoping Apple would go with AI.

With all the neural this and that bits baked into apple silicon, it has seemed [0] for a while that Apple wanted to run all these workloads locally, but this partnership seems like a significant privacy backslide.

Another comment in this thread said something about they’re using b Apple silicon for these workloads, but didn’t give an indication of whether that silicon lives in Apple datacenters or OpenAI ones.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38725167~~

edit: I should have mentioned that I didn’t have a chance to watch the video yet; a reply to my comment mentioned that it’s addressed in the video so I’ll go watch that later

Re: OpenAI and Apple Announce Partnership

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Post by bee_rider »

hehdhdjehehegwv wrote: post #31
blueelephanttea wrote: post #24

IMO this really feels like the Facebook / Twitter integration from early iOS. That only lasted a few years. Apple clearly thinks it needs a dedicated LLM service atm. But still thinks it is only supplemental as they handle a bunch of the core stuff without it. And require explicit user consent to use OpenAI. And Apple clearly views it as a partial commodity since they even said they plan to add others. Tough to bet a…

There’s a lot I don’t like about Sam Altman. There’s a lot I don’t like about OpenAI. But goddamn they absolutely leapfrogged Google and Apple and it’s completely amazing to see these trillion dollar companies play catch-up with a start-up. I want to see more of this. Big Tech has been holding back innovation for too long.

Isn’t MS heavily invested in them and also letting them use Azure pretty extensively? Rather, I think this is more like an interesting model of a big tech company actually managing to figure out exactly how hands off they need to be, in order to not suffocate any ember of innovation. (In this mixed analogy people often put out fires with their bare hands I guess, don’t think too hard about it).

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Post by jbm »

mvdtnz wrote: post #26

I still don't know a single person who wants this crap. I don't want "AI" in my web browser, I don't want it in my email client, I don't want it on my phone, I just don't want it. And it feels like everyone I speak to agrees! So who is this all for?

Nah, I want it. I use it all the time to do things like translate obscure Kanji and learn more about certain religious texts.

For example: https://chatgpt.com/share/4a31c79b-a380-4fa0-9808-8145e3cfb4...

LLMs are very useful and very helpful, certainly more helpful than ony searching the web. Watching people apply the crypto lens to it is unfortunate for them, it's not a waste of electricity like most crypto, and it isn't useless output.

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Post by whimsicalism »

stetrain wrote: post #60
whimsicalism wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

not for gpt4o workloads they aren't going to

Right, but are those going to run on Apple-owned hardware at all? It seems like Apple will first prioritize their models running on-device, then their models running on Apple Silicon servers, and then bail out to ChatGPT API calls specifically for Siri requests that they think can be better answered by ChatGPT. I'm sure OpenAI will need to beef up their hardware to handle these requests - even as filtered down as the…

they're going to be using nvidia (or maybe AMD if they ever catch up) to train these models anyways

Re: OpenAI and Apple Announce Partnership

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Post by eddieplan9 »

MangoCoffee wrote: post #71
blueelephanttea wrote: post #24

IMO this really feels like the Facebook / Twitter integration from early iOS. That only lasted a few years. Apple clearly thinks it needs a dedicated LLM service atm. But still thinks it is only supplemental as they handle a bunch of the core stuff without it. And require explicit user consent to use OpenAI. And Apple clearly views it as a partial commodity since they even said they plan to add others. Tough to bet a…

It's a win for OpenAI and AI. I remember someone on Hacker News commented that OpenAI is a company searching for a market. This move might prove that AI, and OpenAI, has a legitimate way to be used and profitable. We'll see.

Steve Jobs famously said Dropbox is a feature not a product. This feels very much like it.
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