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Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by maxioatic » Mon, Jun 10, 2024, 6:48 PM UTC

I might have missed it but did they mention Spotlight at all? That'd be pretty sweet if Spotlight becomes more useful (even a little bit)

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by PodgieTar » Mon, Jun 10, 2024, 6:48 PM UTC

c1sc0 wrote: post #40

nerdjon wrote: post #15

I am pretty unhappy with Apple doing the image generation, was really hoping that just would not happen. But a lot of the other features actually seem useful without feeling shoehorned in. At least so far. I am hoping that I can turn off the ability to use a server while keeping local processing, but curious what that would actually look like. Would it just say "sorry can't do that" or something? Is it that there is…

What’s wrong with the image generation?

I think there's still a myriad of concerns around the ethics of using others uncredited images to power models that aim to disenfranchise artists.

but my biggest concern is that I think they look tacky, and putting it right in the messaging apps is gonna be ... irritating.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by localhost » Mon, Jun 10, 2024, 6:48 PM UTC

cube2222 wrote: post #3

This seems really cool. They said the models can scale to "private cloud compute" based on Apple Silicon which will be ensured by your device to run "publicly verifiable software" in order to guarantee no misuse of your data. I wonder if their server-side code will be open-source? That'd be positively surprising. Curious to see how this evolves. Anyway, overall looks really really cool. If it works as marketed, then…

It seems like this is an orchestration layer that runs on Apple Silicon, given that ChatGPT integration looks like an API call from that. It's not clear to me what is being computed on the "private cloud compute"?

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by oidar » Mon, Jun 10, 2024, 6:48 PM UTC

theshrike79 wrote: post #21

jcfrei wrote: post #5

So, is Apple running a proprietary LLM or are they licensing one from OpenAI, Google, etc?

Both. Siri is on device and it can talk to ChatGPT

And they can push computer to Apple cloud when compute on the device is not enough.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by breadwinner » Mon, Jun 10, 2024, 6:48 PM UTC

The worst part of Apple Intelligence is that it will now be a layer in between you and your friends & family. Every message will now be "cleaned up" by Apple Intelligence so you are not directly talking with your mom, best friend etc.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by Tagbert » Mon, Jun 10, 2024, 6:48 PM UTC

rvz wrote: post #4

Lots of apps have been sherlocked once again and this marks the accelerated race to zero with Apple's entrance with on-device AI all system-wide. No API keys, no prompt engineering or switching between AI models. It. just. works.

I'm glad that they finally brought a better window tiling system. If that sherlocks a couple of dozen utility apps, I'm OK with that. it has been long enough. Some of those apps will be fine as they will probably provide more controls.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by lambdasmith » Mon, Jun 10, 2024, 6:49 PM UTC

How is this going to affect battery life realistically with all the semantic indexing going on in the background?

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by philistine » Mon, Jun 10, 2024, 6:49 PM UTC

rys wrote: post #2

So was there ever a deal with OpenAI? Nothing in the keynote mentioned them or needs them. If there isn’t a deal, I’d love to know how everyone claiming it was signed on the dotted line was led so far down that garden path.

OpenAI is an option when making a query, but Apple made it sound like the first deal they're making, not the tight collaboration everybody was expecting.

They gave more space and reverence to Ubisoft.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by visarga » Mon, Jun 10, 2024, 6:49 PM UTC

It's either "Apple Intelligence" or "Generative Intelligence", not "Artificial Intelligence" and "Generative Models"... so silly to brand common ideas with a small twist.

Basically all your information is sucked into a semantic system, and your apps are accessible to a LLM. All with closed models and trusted auditors.

Also funny how they pretend it's a great breakthrough when Siri was stupid-Siri for so many years and only now is lately coming to the AI party.

I really hope those gen-images won't be used to ridicule and bully other people. I think it's kind of daring to use images of known people without their consent, relying on the idea that you know them.

And it's dawning on me that we are already neck-deep in AI. It's flowing through every app and private information. They obliterate any privacy in this system, for the model.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by bee_rider » Mon, Jun 10, 2024, 6:49 PM UTC

c1sc0 wrote: post #40

nerdjon wrote: post #15

I am pretty unhappy with Apple doing the image generation, was really hoping that just would not happen. But a lot of the other features actually seem useful without feeling shoehorned in. At least so far. I am hoping that I can turn off the ability to use a server while keeping local processing, but curious what that would actually look like. Would it just say "sorry can't do that" or something? Is it that there is…

What’s wrong with the image generation?

People have ethical concerns about all the public images that were scraped. Regardless of whether or not we agree with them, it is a pretty popular stance to take.