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Microsoft Bans Linux/Android Dual-Booting on Windows 8 ARM Devices

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Re: Microsoft Bans Linux/Android Dual-Booting on Windows 8 ARM Devices

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I assume Microsoft will want to have secure booting devices that ship with Windows, because Hollywood and other content producers require a secure OS so their DRM is safer. If they would allow non-secure boot, it might be difficult or impossible to get video and music content licensed from the major producers on the platform.

Because insecure-booting OSes like Windows 7 (and earlier) and Mac OS X have so much trouble getting licensed video and music content...

Re: Microsoft Bans Linux/Android Dual-Booting on Windows 8 ARM Devices

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post #7

Like iOS. Why the shock headline?

Because the iOS policy is unethical (the machine belongs to the user, not apple), and now Microsoft is (attempting) to do it too.

The only way to stop unethical behavior is to punish them. The Library of Congress already ruled that this behavior is unethical, now manufacturers need to be pressured.

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post #6

I assume Microsoft will want to have secure booting devices that ship with Windows, because Hollywood and other content producers require a secure OS so their DRM is safer. If they would allow non-secure boot, it might be difficult or impossible to get video and music content licensed from the major producers on the platform.

It should be noted Secure Boot is not a DRM device in itself, it merely allows you to enforce a chain of trust for an OS to boot. The OS still needs to provide DRM functions itself.

Re: Microsoft Bans Linux/Android Dual-Booting on Windows 8 ARM Devices

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post #19
post #7

Like iOS. Why the shock headline?

I would love to see an open bootloader for iDevices. However, I do think that there is a difference between Apple, a company who makes their own hardware and have chosen this strategy, and Microsoft, a company who tries to impose their strategy on others (device makers).

In theory, the PC makers are the ones who can choose whether to apply Windows Certification to their devices. Of course, they are in a position where they have no real choice not to, and then we are getting into antitrust territory.

Re: Microsoft Bans Linux/Android Dual-Booting on Windows 8 ARM Devices

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[edit] The article is from January[/edit]

Topic discussed previously on Hacker News:

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3458679

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3567448

Upshot: If you don't care that your hardware is certified, you don't have to implement secure boot in the way Microsoft requires for certification. You will probably have a few technical challenges, however.

Re: Microsoft Bans Linux/Android Dual-Booting on Windows 8 ARM Devices

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post #15

My speculation is that they are doing this so that they can offer subsidies on the hardware.

My speculation is so that ARM devices which take advantage of the Microsoft stack are suitable for a wider range of enterprise customers. Think HIPAA rather than "hip."

Re: Microsoft Bans Linux/Android Dual-Booting on Windows 8 ARM Devices

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post #20
post #15

My speculation is that they are doing this so that they can offer subsidies on the hardware.

If that's the problem, why can't end users "buy off" the bootloader lock if they want to?

MS doesn't need the money, they needs the users.

Re: Microsoft Bans Linux/Android Dual-Booting on Windows 8 ARM Devices

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post #2

The article is much more complex than what it would look like from the title, but it is a good idea to keep the pressure on on Microsoft so that they might "soften their position", as is stated in the article.

Originally Windows 8 x86 certification didn't mandate that a disable option must exist. They changed this because of pressure. They won't soften their position just like that, they have a policy and agenda and they will follow it. Just the fact that they will have a SecureBoot stronghold means they can easily tighten their position. The pain doesn't come from the fences being built, it's from taking them away.

Also, all of this pretty much stops new linux penetration, which is a horrible thing.

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