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I hate to think of other agencies that act this negligently. Not enough funds/competence to do their task properly but a ton of power to destroy people's lives, the problems too complex to tease out without real focus.
It's basically every large organisation in the world. I've worked in enough now to understand they're all the same.
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Nothing of the sort was glossed over, I'm not sure how you failed to read so spectacularly. Quotes from the article: > Formoterol is a medication I take for asthma. I have been taking it for years well below the anti-doping threshold > I refused the use of a nebuliser for asthma when I was so unwell I couldn’t walk upstairs because I knew I would need to apply for a TUE (Therapeutic Use Exemption). It sounds like you…
Do you really believe a world-class athlete has such dehabilitating asthma?
> is suggestive that years of endurance training may be a contributory cause.
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It’s irrelevant to the story. She stayed under the limit allowed by UKAD.
She did not because she tested positive for a diuretic. > Diuretics affect the way the body metabolizes and excretes beta-2 agonists. If you are on a diuretic medication (or on any other substance in the S5 category of the Prohibited List) for any reason and you are using an inhaler that contains salbutamol (albuterol) or formoterol, then you may need a TUE. Please see the TUE section below.
Which is covered in the article.
And one of the main points of this article is that the rules are inconsistent and not based in reality.
To paraphrase the article (but don't take my word for it, I highly suggest reading it yourself), the rules are fatally flawed because of the bimodality where contaminants at arbitrary concentrations determine whether other medications in urine samples are allowed or not.
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She did not because she tested positive for a diuretic. > Diuretics affect the way the body metabolizes and excretes beta-2 agonists. If you are on a diuretic medication (or on any other substance in the S5 category of the Prohibited List) for any reason and you are using an inhaler that contains salbutamol (albuterol) or formoterol, then you may need a TUE. Please see the TUE section below.
You’re changing the subject now. The TUE would be for the asthma medication, not the diuretic. She was below the limit for asthma medication, so didn’t need a TUE. Edit: if you’re about to talk about how it affected the ruling for the asthma medication, then you’re just repeating the article and should just read that instead of arguing in the comments.
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She did not because she tested positive for a diuretic. > Diuretics affect the way the body metabolizes and excretes beta-2 agonists. If you are on a diuretic medication (or on any other substance in the S5 category of the Prohibited List) for any reason and you are using an inhaler that contains salbutamol (albuterol) or formoterol, then you may need a TUE. Please see the TUE section below.
Except she wasn't "on" a diuretic, it was a contaminant orders of magnitude below the therapeutic dose. Which is covered in the article. And one of the main points of this article is that the rules are inconsistent and not based in reality. To paraphrase the article (but don't take my word for it, I highly suggest reading it yourself), the rules are fatally flawed because of the bimodality where contaminants at arbit…
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Your behavior in this thread is shamefully arrogant and misinformed.
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You’re changing the subject now. The TUE would be for the asthma medication, not the diuretic. She was below the limit for asthma medication, so didn’t need a TUE. Edit: if you’re about to talk about how it affected the ruling for the asthma medication, then you’re just repeating the article and should just read that instead of arguing in the comments.
It's not arbitrary. Diuretics mask the asthma (ie, steroid) readings.
The reason why is actually in the article but I’m sick of just typing it out for you when you can stop being lazy and read the thing yourself.
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It's not arbitrary. Diuretics mask the asthma (ie, steroid) readings.
UKAD accepted that the amount was far below any effective levels. The article makes this crystal clear. It also makes crystal clear that this was contamination, as Lizzy took a hair test to show she couldn’t have taken it deliberately. The reason why is actually in the article but I’m sick of just typing it out for you when you can stop being lazy and read the thing yourself.
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Most asthma medications aren’t steroids. The types of steroids used to treat asthma aren’t anabolic steroids - they’re corticosteroids and are generally performance-reducing when taken long-term. The asthma medication discussed in the article is also not a steroid, but even if it were, inhaled corticosteroids have zero utility as a PED. Your behavior in this thread is shamefully arrogant and misinformed.
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Do you really believe a world-class athlete has such dehabilitating asthma?
A lot of world class endurance athletes have asthma. See here: > is suggestive that years of endurance training may be a contributory cause. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22228581/