If you are interested in this work, you could look into joining or just supporting the TeX Users Group, https://www.tug.org , or your local users group. A lot of folks doing good things, including the ones who are doing this.
and for anyone in the TeX User Group there is this fun experiment in Typesetting which starts off with the amazing TeX origin story https://youtu.be/Y65FRxE7uMc
LaTeX is the first PDF/UA-2 compliance accessible PDF producer
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Re: LaTeX is the first PDF/UA-2 compliance accessible PDF producer
#32This must be a joke. LaTeX cannot even produce accessible PDF today. Believe me, I tried. I write my lecture notes in LaTeX and some of my students have disabilities. I tried to follow these guides https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/261537/a-guide-on-ho... (note the Feb 2024 update). No matter how technically "correct" the LaTeX people want it to be, even a PDF produced by MS Word was more accessible for my stud…
If you want to produce accessible documents from LaTeX, you should convert to HTML. ATs such as screen readers just work miles better than with PDFs, and given the resources put in developing browsers compared to PDF readers, I don't think this will change any time soon. Luckily conversion from LaTeX to HTML is very feasible today, as proved by arXiv. (Shameless plug: I maintain BookML specifically to help lecturers with the LaTeX to HTML work)
Re: LaTeX is the first PDF/UA-2 compliance accessible PDF producer
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I love ePub, but I also have to admit that the viewer experience for non-books is really not quite there yet. Most viewers on iOS, macOS, Linux and Android that I've tried are very tied to the idea of all ePubs being ebooks and insist on managing them in their own library, don't optimize latency to first page rendered (because they usually index and cache a bunch of stuff for a "newly opened book", assuming you'll be…
Did you try muPDF?
Re: LaTeX is the first PDF/UA-2 compliance accessible PDF producer
#34This must be a joke. LaTeX cannot even produce accessible PDF today. Believe me, I tried. I write my lecture notes in LaTeX and some of my students have disabilities. I tried to follow these guides https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/261537/a-guide-on-ho... (note the Feb 2024 update). No matter how technically "correct" the LaTeX people want it to be, even a PDF produced by MS Word was more accessible for my stud…
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Did you try muPDF?
Is that available for macOS? I can't seem to find a recent release.
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Is that available for macOS? I can't seem to find a recent release.
https://formulae.brew.sh/formula/mupdf#default
Not sure how it is supposed to look like on other OSes, but this is barely a GUI application on macOS. (I have to launch it from the command line, UI and text rendering are extremely pixelated etc.)
It's definitely not up to par with any PDF viewer I've used so far, especially when it comes to quickly navigating between pages and chapters (crucial for non-linearly working with scientific papers etc).
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https://formulae.brew.sh/formula/mupdf#default
Thank you! Not sure how it is supposed to look like on other OSes, but this is barely a GUI application on macOS. (I have to launch it from the command line, UI and text rendering are extremely pixelated etc.) It's definitely not up to par with any PDF viewer I've used so far, especially when it comes to quickly navigating between pages and chapters (crucial for non-linearly working with scientific papers etc).
EDIT: there's also this https://sioyek.info/ found thanks to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/9d13dbb1ef2d0a6a6788d5...
Re: LaTeX is the first PDF/UA-2 compliance accessible PDF producer
#38This must be a joke. LaTeX cannot even produce accessible PDF today. Believe me, I tried. I write my lecture notes in LaTeX and some of my students have disabilities. I tried to follow these guides https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/261537/a-guide-on-ho... (note the Feb 2024 update). No matter how technically "correct" the LaTeX people want it to be, even a PDF produced by MS Word was more accessible for my stud…
The tagging work is still highly experimental. A major missing element is equation tagging: for now, you need to produce an 'associated MathML' file externally, for instance using LaTeXML. Even then, PDF readers do not support the MathML tags yet! If anything, I am sure that the LaTeX3 team would appreciate you posting minimal examples of mistagged PDFs. If you want to produce accessible documents from LaTeX, you sho…
Re: LaTeX is the first PDF/UA-2 compliance accessible PDF producer
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The tagging work is still highly experimental. A major missing element is equation tagging: for now, you need to produce an 'associated MathML' file externally, for instance using LaTeXML. Even then, PDF readers do not support the MathML tags yet! If anything, I am sure that the LaTeX3 team would appreciate you posting minimal examples of mistagged PDFs. If you want to produce accessible documents from LaTeX, you sho…
A 50-page PDF loads a lot faster and shows a lot smoother than an HTML of equal textual length. And I've never seen any modern tools that turn TeX into multifile HTML (one per section).
Very true! Although they are now comparable, if you rely on the browser native MathML instead of MathJax/LaTeX.
(You can test this on long arXiv HTML papers, e.g. https://ar5iv.labs.arxiv.org/html/1710.07304 is more than 60 pages as PDF. Mind you, the ar5iv default CSS is not great. I would use Latin Modern for formulas, at the very least.)
> I've never seen any modern tools that turn TeX into multifile HTML (one per section).
I believe all of them can do it out of the box now. I know for sure that LaTeXML, tex4ht and lwarp can split by chapter or section.
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Thank you! Not sure how it is supposed to look like on other OSes, but this is barely a GUI application on macOS. (I have to launch it from the command line, UI and text rendering are extremely pixelated etc.) It's definitely not up to par with any PDF viewer I've used so far, especially when it comes to quickly navigating between pages and chapters (crucial for non-linearly working with scientific papers etc).
I think everyone on Linux uses it just as the backend inside zathura https://archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/zathura-pdf-mupd... (yes, it's associated with `application/epub+zip` ) and I can tell you that zathura feels very snappy. On Windows mupdf is used by SumatraPDF which also is stupidly fast and supports rendering EPUBs too. EDIT: there's also this https://sioyek.info/ found thanks to https://github.com/Nix…