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Used cars retain designs and features more coveted than their replacements

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Re: Used cars retain designs and features more coveted than their replacements

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How do the modern Chinese $10k cars compare? Genuine question.

The BYD Seagull, at US$11,000 before the new 100% tariff, gets decent reviews.[1] [1] https://insideevs.com/news/710364/byd-detroit-import-seagull...

> This imported Seagull wasn’t made to pass U.S. crash standards

Interesting but not something one would want to drive.

Re: Used cars retain designs and features more coveted than their replacements

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If you had to buy a clothes washer recently, top load is better than side load, agitator is better than no agitator, analog buttons or dial is a plus, et al. Old is better than new. The rude design choices have compounded. Nobody needs an app to know what cycle their washer is at. Anyone using a washer, listens for it. When your display goes out, all the functionality is gone. It's just mind boggling. The 2024 Hyunda…

Why would a top loaded washing machine be better? They use more water than frontloaders, and in my experience they don't clean any better.. Do they cause less wear on your clothes or something?

The bearings on a front-loader live a hard life and eventually fail, often as a result of the seal failing. I will give a typical top-loader a longer projected life without significant mechanical maintenance. (I’ve changed two sets of bearings on my own front loaders and one for my in-laws. It’s doable DIY but takes several hours, making it expensive to have a tech come do it.)

Re: Used cars retain designs and features more coveted than their replacements

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Doing laundry is of about the same complexity as boiling an egg.

If I want a boiled egg, chances are I want it soft-boiled (runny yolk but cooked white) which is the custom here in the UK. (As children we are given a softboiled egg in an egg-cup along with rectangles of toast called "soldiers" to dip in the yolk. I guess it's an Edwardian thing, redolent of Nannies and Nurseries.) In all my 50 years I still cannot reliably produce a softboiled egg, regardless of the method. Do I b…

Really? I just bring water to a boil, put eggs in and set a six minute timer. Move them to cold water and peel. Perfect soft-boiled eggs every single time.

Re: Used cars retain designs and features more coveted than their replacements

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Are these really the problem? I feel like new cars are obscenely expensive right now. Even a basic car can easily run you 30-40k, the same thing a few years used will be The difference between a brand new car and a 10 year old car is almost nil in terms of featureset nowadays (if anything, you get more because you can buy a higher end older model for less), every car has all the basics. Cars just got so good over the…

> I feel like new cars are obscenely expensive right now.

This is the main issue. The salaries haven't followed the same trend like the price of cars.

Re: Used cars retain designs and features more coveted than their replacements

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> designs and features

Nah, it's that new cars drop 50% of their value on the first three years. People are fed up setting fire to their cash. The pressures of living costs don't permit it for many.

3-5yo cars are the sweet spot. The depreciation curve starts to flatten. A good clean and it's as good as new.

Re: Used cars retain designs and features more coveted than their replacements

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post #56

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The BYD Seagull, at US$11,000 before the new 100% tariff, gets decent reviews.[1] [1] https://insideevs.com/news/710364/byd-detroit-import-seagull...

> This imported Seagull wasn’t made to pass U.S. crash standards Interesting but not something one would want to drive.

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Re: Used cars retain designs and features more coveted than their replacements

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Why there are no $3k-$4k cars? I am sure most people need cheaper cars, not electric cars, or AI cars, or cars with mobile app and telemetry. Those are toys for the rich.

With that budget you get an electric bike, though. That's a small, cheap, healthy car.

"The reason you can't have a cheaper car is it needs many crash safety features! It would be unsafe! Ride a bike instead!"

How does the bike do in a crash?

Re: Used cars retain designs and features more coveted than their replacements

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> Anyone using a washer, listens for it. Currently, I have to set a timer on my phone to go check the washer and dryer because my laundry is in the basement and I'm probably on the 2nd floor or outside. I would love it if these things would run on my network with simple, published APIs exposed to tell me status so that I could know that I could have automated alerting and know that they wouldn't fail in the future wh…

You can! Get an energy-monitoring smart plug[1]. Set it up on Home Assistant[2] or another smart-stuff system. Then create an Automation which sends an alert when it drops below 25 watts for 3 minutes. It's all-local, and requires no integration with the washer. 220V dryers may be a little trickier, but still easy enough if you're comfortable with basic electrical stuff. You can put a sensor on an indicator light, or…

This is exactly what I did. It sends a text when it’s done. I forget some times even with the text, so I added repetitive alerts. That got annoying, so I added a door sensor to the washing machine to silence repetitive alerts if you open the door after a cycle is done. Total cost was negligible. A cheap $20 smart plug that I never use except for monitoring and $10 for the door sensor.

Re: Used cars retain designs and features more coveted than their replacements

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With that budget you get an electric bike, though. That's a small, cheap, healthy car.

"The reason you can't have a cheaper car is it needs many crash safety features! It would be unsafe! Ride a bike instead!" How does the bike do in a crash?

That's why cyclists advocate for protected lanes and separate bike paths, instead of infrastructure made of paint.
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