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Used cars retain designs and features more coveted than their replacements

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Re: Used cars retain designs and features more coveted than their replacements

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Post by johnea »

dexwiz wrote: post #11
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Anyone using a washer, listens for it I hate laundry. I still have no idea how to do it; I referred to detergent as laundry sauce a few years ago after forgetting the word. (Thank you, subconscious of mine.) The new machines with screens are a nuisance. Apparently to you, somebody competent. But also to those of us for whom listening to one’s washing machine sounds like advice from a laundry Lorax.

Laundry is not hard. Go watch a YouTube video. When it doubt, sort by color and size, wash on cold, hang dry. Heat can keep things white or dry things faster, but has higher potential to damage clothes. All mass produced clothes of any value have a care tag that at least has symbols, if not outright written Instructions. EDIT: Reading your bio makes me think of someone who has probably never had to do their own laund…

Ha Ha! Watch youboob, that's funny 8-)

Or, ignore all of that, throw everything in together, wash on cold with minimal "sauce".

No problem, been doing it for decades. Nothing fades, nothing shrinks, doesn't waste energy heating water that doesn''t help anything anyway...

Why make these thiongs so complicated?

Re: Used cars retain designs and features more coveted than their replacements

#32

Post by m463 »

readthenotes1 wrote: post #9

Old is not better than new, better is better. Better is Lane keeping, breaking assist, and backup cameras. Better is physical buttons and cars without spyware. Better is 50 miles per gallon unless tire residue spreading microplastics all over our environment.

But nowadays it seems there are always faustian bargains. They are carefully calculated to balance evil^h^h^h^h business interests vs convenience

Re: Used cars retain designs and features more coveted than their replacements

#33

Post by pkulak »

Panzer04 wrote: post #7

Are these really the problem? I feel like new cars are obscenely expensive right now. Even a basic car can easily run you 30-40k, the same thing a few years used will be The difference between a brand new car and a 10 year old car is almost nil in terms of featureset nowadays (if anything, you get more because you can buy a higher end older model for less), every car has all the basics. Cars just got so good over the…

This is it, and it's probably mostly about CarPlay/Android Auto. You can find 10-year-old cars with CarPlay these days. The cars are old, but guess what, once you plug in your phone, your interface is the latest iOS, same as any other car.

Re: Used cars retain designs and features more coveted than their replacements

#34

Post by JumpCrisscross »

JadeNB wrote: post #12
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Anyone using a washer, listens for it I hate laundry. I still have no idea how to do it; I referred to detergent as laundry sauce a few years ago after forgetting the word. (Thank you, subconscious of mine.) The new machines with screens are a nuisance. Apparently to you, somebody competent. But also to those of us for whom listening to one’s washing machine sounds like advice from a laundry Lorax.

> The new machines with screens are terrible. Apparently to you. But also to those of us who have no idea what you’re talking about with this Lorax for the laundry talk. I think it's just a simple statement that, for example, an app that proudly offers to tell you when your drying is done is really offering no service, since you can just hear from the fact that the dryer's not running that it's done—not that we're pe…

> an app that proudly offers to tell you when your drying is done

This could be useful. This also doesn’t require an app.

Re: Used cars retain designs and features more coveted than their replacements

#35

Post by m463 »

johnea wrote: post #18
codedokode wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why there are no $3k-$4k cars? I am sure most people need cheaper cars, not electric cars, or AI cars, or cars with mobile app and telemetry. Those are toys for the rich.

I'd like a $4K electric car

you can get old used leafs or similar

I've seen many few year old used tesla 3s ~ $20k

Re: Used cars retain designs and features more coveted than their replacements

#36

Post by AnthonyMouse »

Bjartr wrote: post #28
codedokode wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why there are no $3k-$4k cars? I am sure most people need cheaper cars, not electric cars, or AI cars, or cars with mobile app and telemetry. Those are toys for the rich.

I think it's at least in part because you have to meet a whole lot of regulations to make a car street legal. You can start with a simple 3k vehicle, but by time you've made the changes needed to pass all the requirements it'll be over 10k. It's worth noting that the majority of these regulations are at least nominally about safety.

A lot of the regulations are also about emissions, so conveniently that goes away with electric cars. But then your problem is that the battery is expensive. For now.

Re: Used cars retain designs and features more coveted than their replacements

#37

Post by JumpCrisscross »

johnea wrote: post #31
dexwiz wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Laundry is not hard. Go watch a YouTube video. When it doubt, sort by color and size, wash on cold, hang dry. Heat can keep things white or dry things faster, but has higher potential to damage clothes. All mass produced clothes of any value have a care tag that at least has symbols, if not outright written Instructions. EDIT: Reading your bio makes me think of someone who has probably never had to do their own laund…

Ha Ha! Watch youboob, that's funny 8-) Or, ignore all of that, throw everything in together, wash on cold with minimal "sauce". No problem, been doing it for decades. Nothing fades, nothing shrinks, doesn't waste energy heating water that doesn''t help anything anyway... Why make these thiongs so complicated?

> throw everything in together, wash on cold with minimal "sauce"

I’m cracking up here, because this is what I’ve settled on.

Cold washes when necessary. Dry cleaning for what needs it. Drop off when I’m in a city for everything else, which happens a few times a year.

Re: Used cars retain designs and features more coveted than their replacements

#38

Post by TylerE »

codedokode wrote: post #15
Panzer04 wrote: post #7

Are these really the problem? I feel like new cars are obscenely expensive right now. Even a basic car can easily run you 30-40k, the same thing a few years used will be The difference between a brand new car and a 10 year old car is almost nil in terms of featureset nowadays (if anything, you get more because you can buy a higher end older model for less), every car has all the basics. Cars just got so good over the…

Why there are no $3k-$4k cars? I am sure most people need cheaper cars, not electric cars, or AI cars, or cars with mobile app and telemetry. Those are toys for the rich.

The exist, in markets like India. They're death traps, not meeting Western standards of even 30 years ago.

Re: Used cars retain designs and features more coveted than their replacements

#39

Post by desmond373 »

johnea wrote: post #18
codedokode wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why there are no $3k-$4k cars? I am sure most people need cheaper cars, not electric cars, or AI cars, or cars with mobile app and telemetry. Those are toys for the rich.

I'd like a $4K electric car

Ive been playing with the idea for a kit electric car for a while. It would be cheap but still not that cheap. The expensive part is the battery

Re: Used cars retain designs and features more coveted than their replacements

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Post by jraines »

johnea wrote: post #18
codedokode wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why there are no $3k-$4k cars? I am sure most people need cheaper cars, not electric cars, or AI cars, or cars with mobile app and telemetry. Those are toys for the rich.

I'd like a $4K electric car

I would joke that that’s a golf cart but the carts I see for sale around here (where you can drive them on roads) are a good amount more
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