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Used cars retain designs and features more coveted than their replacements

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Re: Used cars retain designs and features more coveted than their replacements

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If you had to buy a clothes washer recently, top load is better than side load, agitator is better than no agitator, analog buttons or dial is a plus, et al. Old is better than new. The rude design choices have compounded. Nobody needs an app to know what cycle their washer is at. Anyone using a washer, listens for it. When your display goes out, all the functionality is gone. It's just mind boggling.

The 2024 Hyundai Tuscon with 10 year warranty (on top of the manufacturer's 2 year warranty) means this will probably be our last car. It has all the best features of 2019 and has very few rude problems - eg turning off the engine and opening the driver door locks the rear doors. That's not helpful.

Re: Used cars retain designs and features more coveted than their replacements

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If you had to buy a clothes washer recently, top load is better than side load, agitator is better than no agitator, analog buttons or dial is a plus, et al. Old is better than new. The rude design choices have compounded. Nobody needs an app to know what cycle their washer is at. Anyone using a washer, listens for it. When your display goes out, all the functionality is gone. It's just mind boggling. The 2024 Hyunda…

> Anyone using a washer, listens for it

I hate laundry. I still have no idea how to do it; I referred to detergent as laundry sauce a few years ago after forgetting the word. (Thank you, subconscious of mine.)

The new machines with screens are a nuisance. Apparently to you, somebody competent. But also to those of us for whom listening to one’s washing machine sounds like advice from a laundry Lorax.

Re: Used cars retain designs and features more coveted than their replacements

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If you had to buy a clothes washer recently, top load is better than side load, agitator is better than no agitator, analog buttons or dial is a plus, et al. Old is better than new. The rude design choices have compounded. Nobody needs an app to know what cycle their washer is at. Anyone using a washer, listens for it. When your display goes out, all the functionality is gone. It's just mind boggling. The 2024 Hyunda…

I'm on team front-loader for sure. When I got my first one (about 30 years ago), I immediately noticed a significant reduction in dryer lint with no other changes. I attributed that to the washer doing less damage to the clothes and did later get a strong sense that my clothes were lasting correspondingly longer. (I couldn't detect any change in cleaning power.)

Completely agree that I don't need any WiFi connectivity on it.

Re: Used cars retain designs and features more coveted than their replacements

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Are these really the problem? I feel like new cars are obscenely expensive right now. Even a basic car can easily run you 30-40k, the same thing a few years used will be The difference between a brand new car and a 10 year old car is almost nil in terms of featureset nowadays (if anything, you get more because you can buy a higher end older model for less), every car has all the basics. Cars just got so good over the last 20-25 years that any vehicle in that age range is a perfectly reasonable choice.

Re: Used cars retain designs and features more coveted than their replacements

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I love my '98 Jeep Grand Cherokee for everything but the gas mileage. I especially love that everything is under direct button and dial control, and yet somehow its interior doesn't look like that of a 747.

If a 26-year-old car can do it, so can modern ones.

Re: Used cars retain designs and features more coveted than their replacements

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Old is not better than new, better is better.

Better is Lane keeping, breaking assist, and backup cameras.

Better is physical buttons and cars without spyware.

Better is 50 miles per gallon unless tire residue spreading microplastics all over our environment.

Re: Used cars retain designs and features more coveted than their replacements

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If you had to buy a clothes washer recently, top load is better than side load, agitator is better than no agitator, analog buttons or dial is a plus, et al. Old is better than new. The rude design choices have compounded. Nobody needs an app to know what cycle their washer is at. Anyone using a washer, listens for it. When your display goes out, all the functionality is gone. It's just mind boggling. The 2024 Hyunda…

> Anyone using a washer, listens for it I hate laundry. I still have no idea how to do it; I referred to detergent as laundry sauce a few years ago after forgetting the word. (Thank you, subconscious of mine.) The new machines with screens are a nuisance. Apparently to you, somebody competent. But also to those of us for whom listening to one’s washing machine sounds like advice from a laundry Lorax.

Have you considered spending some time to understand how these machines work? I promise you the operational part in the manual that came with them is probably 10 pages long, and designed to instruct folks with an eighth grade reading level how to do laundry.
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