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Secret Hand Gestures in Paintings (2019)

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Re: Secret Hand Gestures in Paintings (2019)

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Post by carabiner »

mordymoop wrote: post #105
mbivert wrote: post #34

> unnatural hand position Is it really unnatural? Interestingly, as a right-handed, the two middle fingers of my right hand tend to effortlessly group together; this feels noticeably less true on my left hand, but still observable if I try to relax it. The peculiar "mission tile" (half-cylindrical) flexibility of the palm region, encouraged by writing for example, may foster this grouping. It's a bit surprising for t…

If I absently place my hand on my chest, the resulting configuration looks just like the “unnatural” one in the painting.

Maybe because you're biased having read the article? I just looked at a picture of me waving at the camera taken 2 weeks ago, and my fingers are splayed apart with even spacing.

Re: Secret Hand Gestures in Paintings (2019)

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Post by ESTheComposer »

endofreach wrote: post #86
runjake wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a surprising amount that aren't. And even then: 1. Every Freemason knows what's on the Internet. Identifications have evolved. 2. The leaks lack... important contexts... about what they are.

But what are they actually used for? The only things i heard about freemasonry were from conspiracy theorists. But i never really found out, what they actually do. And the secret handshakes are performed with strangers to tell each other secretly they're unknown brothers?

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Re: Secret Hand Gestures in Paintings (2019)

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Post by sandworm101 »

fortran77 wrote: post #109
antognini wrote: post #69

Another hand gesture you will frequently see in religious art is a figure (usually a Pope or bishop) pointing upwards with their index and middle finger. This is somewhat unnatural since you would generally point with your index finger alone. The use of two fingers represents the divine and human natures of Christ. A few examples: https://i2.wp.com/catholicism.org/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/fil... https://jimmyakin.com/w…

> Another hand gesture you will frequently see in religious art is a figure (usually a Pope or bishop) pointing upwards with their index and middle finger. This is somewhat unnatural since you would generally point with your index finger alone. The use of two fingers represents the divine and human natures of Christ. At Disney employee training they taught me to point with index and middle finger (or my whole hand) t…

That is less about the gesture than it is about avoiding a different gesture. Many cultures do not appreciate pointing with a single finger. So Disney wants their people to use two.

Re: Secret Hand Gestures in Paintings (2019)

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Post by DonHopkins »

llamaimperative wrote: post #98
DontchaKnowit wrote: post #75

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"Being racist" doesn't mean committing hate crimes. You're allowed to be racist if you want and you're allowed to pretend you're a racist if you want. The goatfucker law still applies.

It's amazing how far racists will contort and bend over backwards not to see racism. It's like they're pretending racism doesn't exist, and has been totally eliminated in the "real world", and all that online stuff doesn't count. Once they paint themselves into a corner by arguing Trump isn't racist because he hasn't actually been convicted of lynching anyone, so all that stuff about Mexicans being rapists and Obama not being American doesn't count, it's pretty hard for anything to pass their definition of racism. (Except Democrats, of course, they are the real racists!)

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Post by walterbell »

criddell wrote: post #30

I love that there's a section for conflicts of interest. Would have been interesting to see a disclosure for a pharma company working on syndactyly or a disclosure that the authors belong to some secret society.

Or a disclosure that their ancestors were for or against a secret society.

Re: Secret Hand Gestures in Paintings (2019)

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Post by m463 »

nosmokewhereiam wrote: post #110
runjake wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Link to the logic puzzle that flir is referring to: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_and_Knaves

Ask what would the other do and do the opposite.

I wonder if you could do that with tristate logic somehow. maybe with more guards or other variables.

Re: Secret Hand Gestures in Paintings (2019)

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Post by standardly »

karaterobot wrote: post #67
bgoated01 wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having been involved in peer reviewed publishing before, I wonder if this was an afterthought prompted by a peer reviewer's comments on the paper. Perhaps they quickly added this point just to get it to pass review. Sloppy, if so, but I've seen similar (though not as blatant) things happen.

There were enough basic grammatical errors in that article—not to mention a general lack of clarity and specificity—that I initially wondered whether it was a preprint, or maybe somebody's blog. But no.

"According to this hypothesis, the gesture was a secret sign used to recognize crypto-jews each other"

"According to this hypothesis, the gesture was a secret sign used to recognize masonic followers each other"

I have never heard this verbiage before... Did an AI write this? Or, can someone explain to me how "used to recognize followers each other" is grammatically sound?

Re: Secret Hand Gestures in Paintings (2019)

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Post by dpig_ »

fortran77 wrote: post #109
antognini wrote: post #69

Another hand gesture you will frequently see in religious art is a figure (usually a Pope or bishop) pointing upwards with their index and middle finger. This is somewhat unnatural since you would generally point with your index finger alone. The use of two fingers represents the divine and human natures of Christ. A few examples: https://i2.wp.com/catholicism.org/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/fil... https://jimmyakin.com/w…

> Another hand gesture you will frequently see in religious art is a figure (usually a Pope or bishop) pointing upwards with their index and middle finger. This is somewhat unnatural since you would generally point with your index finger alone. The use of two fingers represents the divine and human natures of Christ. At Disney employee training they taught me to point with index and middle finger (or my whole hand) t…

The use of two fingers represents the dual natures of Disney Channel and Disney Plus.
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