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Extracting concepts from GPT-4

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Re: Extracting concepts from GPT-4

#12
Exciting to see this so soon after Anthropic's "Mapping the Mind of a Large Language Model" (under 3 weeks). I find these efforts really exciting; it is still common to hear people say "we have no idea how LLMs / Deep Learning works", but that is really a gross generalization as stuff like this shows.

Wonder if this was a bit rushed out in response to Anthropic's release (as well as the departure of Jan Leike from OpenAI)... the paper link doesn't even go to Arxiv, and the analysis is not nearly as deep. Though who knows, might be unrelated.

Re: Extracting concepts from GPT-4

#13
When one of the first examples is:

> GPT-4 feature: ends of phrases related to price increases

and the 2/5s of the responses don't have any relation to increase at all:

> Brent crude, fell 38 cents to $118.29 a barrel on the ICE Futures Exchange in London. The U.S. benchmark, West Texas Intermediate crude, was down 53 cents to $99.34 a barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange. -- Ronald D. White Graphic: The AAA

and

> ,115.18. The record reflects that appellant also included several hand-prepared invoices and employee pay slips, including an allegedly un-invoiced laundry ticket dated 29 June 2013 for 53 bags oflaundry weighing 478 pounds, which, at the contract price of $

I think I must be mis-understanding something. Why would this example (out of all the potential examples) be picked?

Re: Extracting concepts from GPT-4

#14
post #12

Exciting to see this so soon after Anthropic's "Mapping the Mind of a Large Language Model" (under 3 weeks). I find these efforts really exciting; it is still common to hear people say "we have no idea how LLMs / Deep Learning works", but that is really a gross generalization as stuff like this shows. Wonder if this was a bit rushed out in response to Anthropic's release (as well as the departure of Jan Leike from Op…

> but that is really a gross generalization as stuff like this shows.

I think this research actually still reinforces that we still have very little understanding of the internals. The blog post also reiterates that this is early work with many limitations.

Re: Extracting concepts from GPT-4

#15
post #12

Exciting to see this so soon after Anthropic's "Mapping the Mind of a Large Language Model" (under 3 weeks). I find these efforts really exciting; it is still common to hear people say "we have no idea how LLMs / Deep Learning works", but that is really a gross generalization as stuff like this shows. Wonder if this was a bit rushed out in response to Anthropic's release (as well as the departure of Jan Leike from Op…

From the article:

"We currently don't understand how to make sense of the neural activity within language models."

"Unlike with most human creations, we don’t really understand the inner workings of neural networks."

"The [..] networks are not well understood and cannot be easily decomposed into identifiable parts"

"[..] the neural activations inside a language model activate with unpredictable patterns, seemingly representing many concepts simultaneously"

"Learning a large number of sparse features is challenging, and past work has not been shown to scale well."

etc., etc., etc.

People say we don't (currently) know why they output what they output, because .. as the article clearly states, we don't.

Re: Extracting concepts from GPT-4

#17
post #13

When one of the first examples is: > GPT-4 feature: ends of phrases related to price increases and the 2/5s of the responses don't have any relation to increase at all: > Brent crude, fell 38 cents to $118.29 a barrel on the ICE Futures Exchange in London. The U.S. benchmark, West Texas Intermediate crude, was down 53 cents to $99.34 a barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange. -- Ronald D. White Graphic: The AAA an…

Notice that most of the examples have none of the green highlight counter, which is shown for

> small losses. KEEPING SCORE: The Dow Jones industrial average rose 32 points, or 0.2 percent, to 18,156 as of 3:15 p.m. Eastern time. The Standard & Poor’s ... OMAHA, Neb. (AP) — Warren Buffett’s company has bought nearly

the other sentences are in contrast to show how specific this neuron is.

Re: Extracting concepts from GPT-4

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post #12

Exciting to see this so soon after Anthropic's "Mapping the Mind of a Large Language Model" (under 3 weeks). I find these efforts really exciting; it is still common to hear people say "we have no idea how LLMs / Deep Learning works", but that is really a gross generalization as stuff like this shows. Wonder if this was a bit rushed out in response to Anthropic's release (as well as the departure of Jan Leike from Op…

Both Leike and Sutskever are still credited in the post.

Re: Extracting concepts from GPT-4

#19

Can someone ELI5 the significance of this? (okay maybe not 5, but in basic language)

from chatgpt itself: The article discusses how researchers use sparse autoencoders to identify and interpret key features within complex language models like GPT-4, making their inner workings more understandable. This advancement helps improve AI safety and reliability by breaking down the models' decision-making processes into simpler, human-interpretable parts.
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