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Saint Michael Sword: Are the cathedrals really on a straight line?

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Re: Saint Michael Sword: Are the cathedrals really on a straight line?

#11

> Did the builders knew the earth was round? Yes. This has been known since ancient greek times, and Aristotle calculated the size reasonably well. Maybe not every labourer knew or cared but the architects almost certainly did

> Aristotle calculated the size reasonably well

Eratosthenes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%27s_circumference#Eratos... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eratosthenes#Measurement_of_Ea...

Re: Saint Michael Sword: Are the cathedrals really on a straight line?

#13
Are they aligned because they are famous, or are they famous because they are aligned? Or are they aligned because if I pick 7 famous monuments aligned I can draw a line, look over my shoulder and say "ho look, if we draw a line it match!"

From wikipedia, the list of St Michael churches:

    St. Michael's Church (disambiguation)
    Parroquia de San Miguel Arcángel (es), San Miguel de Allende, Guanajuato Mexico World Heritage Site
    Sacra di San Michele (Saint Michael's Abbey), near Turin, Italy
    Pfarrei Brixen St. Michael with the White Tower, Brixen, Italy
    Cathedral of St. Michael and St. Gudula, in Brussels, Belgium
    Mont Saint-Michel, Normandy, France – a World Heritage Site
    St. Michael's Cathedral Basilica (Toronto), Canada
    St. Michael's Cathedral (Izhevsk), Russia
    St. Michael's Cathedral, Qingdao, China
    Chudov Monastery in the Moscow Kremlin
    Cathedral of the Archangel in the Moscow Kremlin – a World Heritage Site
    Sanctuary of Monte Sant'Angelo, Gargano, Italy – a World Heritage Site
    St Michael's Mount, Cornwall, UK
    St. Michael, Minnesota
    St. Michael's Basilica, Miramichi, Canada
    Skellig Michael, off the Irish west coast – a World Heritage Site
    St Michael's Cathedral, Coventry, UK
    St. Michael's Golden-Domed Monastery, Kyiv, Ukraine
    St. Michael's Church, Vienna in Vienna, Austria
    Tayabas Basilica, Tayabas, Quezon, Philippines
    St. Michael's Church, Berlin, Germany
    San Miguel Church (Manila), Philippines
    St. Michael's Jesuit church, Munich, Germany
    St. Michael's Cathedral, Belgrade in Belgrade, Serbia
    Cathedral of St. Michael the Archangel in Gamu, Isabela, Philippines
    Mission San Miguel Arcángel, San Miguel, California, United States, one of the California Missions
    St Michael at the North Gate, Oxford, UK
    St. Michael's Roman Catholic church, Cluj-Napoca, Romania
    St. Michael's Church, Mumbai, India
    Church of St. Michael, Štip, Republic of North Macedonia
    St Michael and All Angels Church, Polwatte
    St Michael's Church, Churchill, UK
    San Miguel Arcangel Church, Marilao, Bulacan, Philippines
    San Miguel Arcangel Church, San Miguel, Bulacan, Philippines
    St Michael the Archangel, Llanyblodwel, England

Re: Saint Michael Sword: Are the cathedrals really on a straight line?

#14
When I was a kid (11/12 or so) I was fascinated by finding alignments between ancient things in the landscape (of which there are many here in Scotland!) - eventually I came to the realisation that given the scale of the maps I was looking at (1:25,000) that you can find loads of meaningless alignments if you look hard enough...

Re: Saint Michael Sword: Are the cathedrals really on a straight line?

#15

Considering the birthday paradox, I get 600! = 1265572316225430742541867824515082929767140386227466076818782885852814082314735123781780279561957107476520853259806022480324090378216476943079502557805427190628338764382608844812462648833262360837616408122117117943988584025781873291903788960371918674394336306213959378447392223185278254761977172388925247687118600017469793454911284566259618230828039061518469192444621555258…

Placement is an interesting problem, assuming a plan to lay them out in a "line", either Geodesic (tricky) or on a common projection of the period prior to construction there remains a few questions:

Given a preferred predetermined position, navigating to the desired latitude would have been easy enough for the time, getting to a spot with the correct longitude is a tricky feat prior to accurate clocks.

Having found such a location there's no apriori guarantee that site is ideal for a large stone building which would lead to some fudging about to find a near althernative site along a corridor.

There's some work to be done upon the order in which these buildings went up and on the locations themselves; for example:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Michael's_Mount

dates as a monastic site back to the 8th Century or so and has very little (almost none) play in position .. it's situated on a rocky outcrop in a strong tidal zone.

All of which leaves questions such as when a decision might first have been made to infill later buildings to match a line through which earlier buildings on which projection.

Re: Saint Michael Sword: Are the cathedrals really on a straight line?

#17

One might begin to calculate the odds of seven cathedrals aligning perfectly in a straight line purely as a result of chance.

Please do so! This would be a fascinating experiment and perhaps a famous one, given that similar answers are the knee jerk reaction of armchair skeptics the world over.

Re: Saint Michael Sword: Are the cathedrals really on a straight line?

#18

Are they aligned because they are famous, or are they famous because they are aligned? Or are they aligned because if I pick 7 famous monuments aligned I can draw a line, look over my shoulder and say "ho look, if we draw a line it match!" From wikipedia, the list of St Michael churches: St. Michael's Church (disambiguation) Parroquia de San Miguel Arcángel (es), San Miguel de Allende, Guanajuato Mexico World Heritag…

But only 7 of those are Cathedrals, and only those are aligned.

Re: Saint Michael Sword: Are the cathedrals really on a straight line?

#20
post #10

> Certainly 7 cathedrals are too many to be a coincidence With the number of cathedrals in Europe I don't really think this is supported.

There are not all cathedrals, actually. They are seven sacred sites dedicated to St Michael (of which there are many all over Europe).

If they really were cathedrals, a coincidence would have been extraordinary.

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