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How are those guys not treated as some hostile foreign power and have half their embassy staff expelled is beyond me.
I’ve often pondered the same. Seems like Israel gets a lot of special treatment from the US.
How are those guys not treated as some hostile foreign power and have half their embassy staff expelled is beyond me.
General lack of countries with something even vaguely resembling representative government in the Middle East. Israel seems to only extend that sort of courtesy to a part of its citizenry, but when you remember that the "stable" countries in the region are all more-or-less absolute monarchies, it becomes obvious why the US is willing to at least work with Israel.
More directly: apartheid "democracy" > monarchy?
Is there a country that doesn't do this?
Why is this flagged? What rule does it violate?
Posts on all sides of this topic get flagged quickly (by users), and mods turn off the flags on limited occasions—mostly when some significant new information arises and there's at least some chance of a substantive discussion about it. It's pretty important that most stories about this conflict and similar current affairs get flagged, because otherwise HN's front page would consist of little else, and that's not the…
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To be fair propagandists generally don't have to aim high. They only have to shift the undecided and uninformed opinions a little bit. You want to see some of the crap the agencies were pushing out pre-Brexit and it worked, so I wouldn't classify the average UK citizen as much to be contended with (I am UK as well for ref).
The only good thing to come from Brexit is that for some people they woke up and smelt the more expensive coffee than it used to be and had some self reflection. I have spoke with a good few people now that were like ‘I was lied to’… well duh.
My father was a fine one. His staff fucked off back to Europe, he couldn't hire anyone else and had to fold his company and retire. Then he found out he got cancer and that the NHS had staffing problems due to Brexit.
Me, I am better off for it as I fill a niche demand, but I voted against it because it was generally bad for society and I do not always vote in self-interest.
How are those guys not treated as some hostile foreign power and have half their embassy staff expelled is beyond me.
General lack of countries with something even vaguely resembling representative government in the Middle East. Israel seems to only extend that sort of courtesy to a part of its citizenry, but when you remember that the "stable" countries in the region are all more-or-less absolute monarchies, it becomes obvious why the US is willing to at least work with Israel.
What do you mean at least work with Israel? The US is propping up Israel and without that ally Israel would probably implode. What’s messed up is how disrespectful Israel and some of their politicians are to US and their citizens. One thing I like about Israel is that they have a variety of oppinions and schools of thought. What we’re currently seeing is coming from the radical right wing and those atrocities will unfortunately stain Israelis of all types. Hope they do at the next elections.
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Espionage/propaganda/public relations/influence campaigns are hardly new. Social media is just a new flavor to go along with the others.
I do think the economy is different. You've always been able to just hire a bunch of thugs to stage an event to shape the narrative, like old-school cold war style. That takes money and effort and a modicum of skill and the risk of being caught with your pants down is not negligible. Difference today is you can stoke the flames of public outrage with just a few people, without even setting foot in the country, while…
Out: blame AIPAC for congress funding israel In: blame FB comments for congress funding Israel Is it really that hard to imagine congress supporting the democratic country with one of the biggest pride parades in the world vs the country that hasn’t had elections in 18 years and is split between 2 leaders who disagree on pretty much everything?
Do you mean NYC Pride or Sao Paolo Gay Pride Parade?
Not a comment about who's right or wrong in this war, but it is fascinating that we have entered the age of the Internet being a place where warfare is fought. There have always been people posting web content about conflicts but now with Gaza and Ukraine, it seems that the nations fighting are actively looking at the internet as the fourth field of battle. Just waiting for a random US future president to create an "…
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