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Popular Mac app 'Bartender' acquired by new unknown developer

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Re: Popular Mac app 'Bartender' acquired by new unknown developer

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In case you are already using my BetterTouchTool app: I have created a little tutorial & example preset here on how to use it for status item management: https://community.folivora.ai/t/bartender-controversy-tutori... You can add feature requests there, it should be pretty simple to extend BTT to support the remaining required features. I have also recently been approached by shady companies trying to buy my app (I'd…

Your app is my favourite Mac app.

Re: Popular Mac app 'Bartender' acquired by new unknown developer

#73
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s a $22 paid app. Of course it’s not going to be open sourced.

I think there are some open source macOS apps that provide code but sell binaries on the App Store, no?

Yes, but it was sold to an acquirer by the original author.

Making it open source would have interfered with the author’s profit goal. There’s nothing wrong with wanting to make profit from your work and protect the source.

Likewise, you’re free to avoid software that isn’t open source. However, it’s useless to make these demands that someone should have open sourced their work when that clearly wasn’t in the best interests of their goals.

Re: Popular Mac app 'Bartender' acquired by new unknown developer

#74
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s a $22 paid app. Of course it’s not going to be open sourced.

I think the point was that open-sourced apps aren't vulnerable to an attack vector like this, which is true. Of course, not everything can be open-sourced, but the poster's point still stands.

Open sourced apps are absolutely vulnerable to this “attack vector”

Did you already forget about the back door in xz utils?

Re: Popular Mac app 'Bartender' acquired by new unknown developer

#75
post #14

Apple really needs to just build this functionality into macOS already. You shouldn't need to pay someone else to shove icons into a drawer. And on the new MacBooks with a notch through the center of the menu bar, it always seems like the icons on the right and the menus for the focused app on the left are ever encroaching towards that space.

I’ve tried switching from Windows to MacOS three times over the past few years and each time I run up against the wall of having to research, choose and purchase small utilities to fix things that I never in a million years would’ve guessed would be an issue. Windows management. File handler. Menu bar organizers. The list goes on.

Well some of this is just getting used to MacOS though - Finder is a pretty huge adjustment (and honestly just not as good as Explorer). I agree that window management was probably the biggest sticking point for me. That being said - beyond being able to drag and snap windows side by side in Windows, I wasn't aware of any built-in management (or at least - thats all I missed when I switched a while back) that was missing in MacOS.

Re: Popular Mac app 'Bartender' acquired by new unknown developer

#77
post #14

Apple really needs to just build this functionality into macOS already. You shouldn't need to pay someone else to shove icons into a drawer. And on the new MacBooks with a notch through the center of the menu bar, it always seems like the icons on the right and the menus for the focused app on the left are ever encroaching towards that space.

I’ve tried switching from Windows to MacOS three times over the past few years and each time I run up against the wall of having to research, choose and purchase small utilities to fix things that I never in a million years would’ve guessed would be an issue. Windows management. File handler. Menu bar organizers. The list goes on.

If you hold down an alphanumeric key in MacOS, it automatically pops up an emoji selector. This is fine, except if you are someone (like me) who occasionally holds down keys to take advantage of key repeat _and_ uses vim keybindings in a few specific non-terminal applications.

There is no GUI to disable this behavior, you have to drop to a terminal, run a command, and then reboot the machine.

This is the example I now use whenever a Mac user says Linux is a pain to configure.

Re: Popular Mac app 'Bartender' acquired by new unknown developer

#78
post #42
post #14

Apple really needs to just build this functionality into macOS already. You shouldn't need to pay someone else to shove icons into a drawer. And on the new MacBooks with a notch through the center of the menu bar, it always seems like the icons on the right and the menus for the focused app on the left are ever encroaching towards that space.

They do have it built in - but only for the default menubar items - like battery, wifi, bluetooth - etc. You can shove all of those into the control center. It works well enough for me that I don't think I need bartender anymore.

Those are the ones I want visible though. The stuff I want to hide is infrequently used things, stuff like icons for passively running background apps, stuff like the JetBrains toolbox updater, zscaler on my work machine, etc.

Re: Popular Mac app 'Bartender' acquired by new unknown developer

#79
post #9

> Future plans for the app remain unknown, but users have a right to know what’s going on behind the scenes. Do they though? You buy a license for a piece of software, and as far as I understand that doesn't include any fundamental rights involving insight into company policies, direction, business strategy, ... Regardless, this is of course quite a dubious takeover.

The thing is that you bought a license for Bartender 5 and up until version 5.0.49 it was shipped by one owner, then from 5.0.52 onwards by a different owner.

Users absolutely have a right to know that the same software they bought is now being packaged by someone else. We're not talking about a different license or version 6 or whatever. Same software, different owner over night.

BTW for people looking, https://www.macbartender.com/Bartender5/release_notes/ still has the old versions up, 5.0.49 is still signed by Surtees Studios Limited

Re: Popular Mac app 'Bartender' acquired by new unknown developer

#80
post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve tried switching from Windows to MacOS three times over the past few years and each time I run up against the wall of having to research, choose and purchase small utilities to fix things that I never in a million years would’ve guessed would be an issue. Windows management. File handler. Menu bar organizers. The list goes on.

Well some of this is just getting used to MacOS though - Finder is a pretty huge adjustment (and honestly just not as good as Explorer). I agree that window management was probably the biggest sticking point for me. That being said - beyond being able to drag and snap windows side by side in Windows, I wasn't aware of any built-in management (or at least - thats all I missed when I switched a while back) that was mis…

Yeah, a lot of the friction comes from macOS being one of the only surviving major desktops that isn’t based on a Win9X paradigm, instead being a blend of classic Mac OS and NeXTSTEP (both dating back to the 80s) with a smattering of modern Apple. For longtime Mac users, Windows (and winlike Linux DEs) present almost as much friction.
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