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Re: Show HN: movies.io — torrent search like it should be

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Post by ziziyO »

njs12345 wrote: post #439
david_shaw wrote: post #288

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>Is it a 'human right' to make money off of Game of Thrones or Batman Begins? Is it a right to make money off of Game of Thrones? No. Is it their right to charge for content they've created? In my opinion, yes. I am a huge advocate of open source software. I'm not an advocate of taking other peoples' software and forcing it to be free, against the creators' wishes. Sharing a book, or facts from a library or notes fro…

> How do you suggest we reinterpret? Should everyone get everything they want for free? A Kickstarter-type patronage model would work: the creators of Game of Thrones ask for funding for a new series, then release it directly into the public domain.

This will eventually be perceived as holding [Game of Thrones] hostage until there is enough money in their Kickstarter account.

Re: Show HN: movies.io — torrent search like it should be

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Post by nl »

franzus wrote: post #451
nl wrote: post #416

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I agree, and I hate this. Even more though, I'm sad that people are forced into a position where they have to run unethical services if they want to build services like this. It is time content owners were forced to provide statutory licenses for streaming video content, just as they are forced to provide licenses for streaming audio.

It is time for home owners to give up their ownership and hand over their property to the people.

Do I detect some sarcasm?

The content industry has manipulated law-makers into giving them exactly what they want.

The way the political system works is that you can't just oppose something, you must have a counter proposal.

Statutory licensing is my proposal.

I'm not sure what you are proposing, but by the sound of it you think the status-quo is acceptable. Fine - but how do you propose to stop the creeping erosion of individual's rights?

Re: Show HN: movies.io — torrent search like it should be

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Post by njs12345 »

bmelton wrote: post #449
njs12345 wrote: post #443

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The private diary issue is different - it's wrong to read someone's diary without their permission even if you don't disseminate the information. Same with trade secrets, there are separate protections for those.

But why is it wrong? If it's right for me to take someone's work and distribute it against their wishes, why is the diary different? Why would I respect the protections of privacy or trade secret if I don't respect the rights of authorship? I'm not trying to set up a non-sequitur, I'm genuinely trying to understand. Also, while I understand that trade secrets are a different issue with copyright, the only tangible di…

It's wrong because it's trespassing or theft. It directly causes harm to someone to disseminate their private thoughts, whereas a literary or artistic work is intended to be distributed.

Trade secrets are really more about contract protection than any right of authorship - the third difference is the key one. Once a trade secret is out in the open it's no longer wrong to spread it further.

Re: Show HN: movies.io — torrent search like it should be

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Post by noonespecial »

enjalot wrote: post #268
res0nat0r wrote: post #244

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It isn't a 'human right' to be able to watch Game of Thrones or Batman Begins without paying for it I don't believe. It is ignorant to try and claim otherwise.

Is it a 'human right' to make money off of Game of Thrones or Batman Begins? Copyright is a monopoly granted by congress' interpretation of the constitution's directive to promote progress of science and the useful arts. I think it's time to reinterpret.

There used to be a dial on that particular machine that could be rationally set somewhere between "always free" and "locked away from society forever". Some very unethical people paid a lot of bribe money to crank it all the way up and then rip the knob off. We don't need to "reinterpret", we just need to use it like it was intended in the first place.

Re: Show HN: movies.io — torrent search like it should be

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Post by jberryman »

jonstjohn wrote: post #140
MatthewPhillips wrote: post #128

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If Hollywood made this exact same product but with pay buttons, why would I as a user choose it over movies.io.

Convenience and (the perception) of safety, both from law and malware. Paying a reasonable amount for a movie that is easy to find and watch is a no-brainer for me. Of course, my time to income ratio is low.

And of course quality.

Re: Show HN: movies.io — torrent search like it should be

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Post by 5xz41s0P8T5N »

galfarragem wrote: post #428

There is one book from a portuguese writer where the argument is something like this: press a button, you'll get a million dollars and somebody (that you don't know) in a very far way place dies. Nobody will know about it just you. Will you press it or not? Piracy is the same. Is so easy to get and normally nobody will know, just a smaller reward and smaller consequences too. Most of people just press it.. disclaimer…

Press button, use money to save >2 lives.

Re: Show HN: movies.io — torrent search like it should be

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Post by turing »

laughinghan wrote: post #305
watsix wrote: post #213

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Using drugs, "facilitating underage drinking" and even jaywalking are quite a bit different than stealing. You say you "don't steal (physical things)" as if that makes it ok, but you are stealing. It's a different form of stealing, but you do steal, you lack empathy for the act, and you are usually hurting the creators of that material in one way or another. Even today, there are societies where it is "socially accep…

You make one good point, but I think you overall misunderstand my stance. Firstly, You say you "don't steal (physical things)" as if that makes it ok... I don't think not stealing makes piracy ok, and I didn't say so. What I mean, and what I tried to say, was that I haven't decided whether I think piracy is ethical or not, and I care little enough that I probably won't decide for the forseeable future. ...but you are…

For those things that are unethical but I don't realize and do anyway because they're socially acceptable, how is "socially acceptable" not a justification? Surely it's unreasonable to expect me to know what is absolutely ethical and what isn't.

There is no question that making decisions about what is ethical and what is not is difficult, which is why I question the fact that you don't care enough to decide whether your piracy is ethical. Acting ethically is difficult, and over the course of our lives we will all make many, many mistakes. But ideally I think we should at least try to act ethically, which requires that we put thought into our actions.

Re: Show HN: movies.io — torrent search like it should be

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Post by daviday »

nddrylliog wrote: post #427
daviday wrote: post #422

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Impressive. Your autocomplete suggestions are high quality, even in foreign languages. May I ask how you are ranking suggestions results? It can't simply be the TMDB api, right?

Right now our search/suggestions is a direct API request to TMDb. Yes, they are that good (props to Fanhattan). Re: foreign languages, they store very tidy information about all the available titles (basically a mapping from ISO 3166-1 to the title), cf. http://help.themoviedb.org/kb/api/movie-alternative-titles Thanks for the feedback!

Thanks for sharing!

Re: Show HN: movies.io — torrent search like it should be

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Post by bennomadic »

edw519 wrote: post #79

I don't know which I feel saddest about: 1. Whether or not this is actually illegal, it is clearly unethical and not in the spirit of good clean business and technology practices we should all be aspire to. 2. That it quickly made it to #1 on Hacker News. 3. That I seem to be one of the few who cares while most others nit on details.

I don't know which I feel saddest about: 1. Someone calling this "clearly unethical" 2. On a site named "hacker" news 3. That comment being top 1.

Re: Show HN: movies.io — torrent search like it should be

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Post by notJim »

yoasif_ wrote: post #389
notJim wrote: post #255

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You're saying that if tomorrow you could no longer download movies, music and tv shows for free, you would simply stop consuming all of these things?

Libraries do still exist.

Great point! Shameful that I didn't even think about it.
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