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Study shows most doctors endorsing drugs on X are paid to do so

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Re: Study shows most doctors endorsing drugs on X are paid to do so

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Post by eaurouge »

beala wrote: post #15
killerdhmo wrote: post #2

Anyone have the actual paper? Does it list who (eg Huberman) is receiving the payola?

You can search the database they used: https://openpaymentsdata.cms.gov/ I can’t find Huberman, but it does look like Peter Attia [1] was payed $300k by Dexcom for consulting services. Dexcom makes continuous glucose monitors that Attia has repeatedly mentioned on the show. It looks like there’s even an episode where he interviews the CEO, although this happened before the payment [2]. This website [3] links his NPI…

> On some of the world’s most popular health podcasts, such as Huberman Lab, hosted by Stanford professor Andrew Huberman, and The Drive with Dr. Peter Attia, CGMs have been both advertised and discussed on dedicated episodes. (Dr. Attia, in a disclaimer, notes that he is a paid advisor to Dexcom.)

https://www.fastcompany.com/90859142/continuous-glucose-moni...

Re: Study shows most doctors endorsing drugs on X are paid to do so

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Post by DoreenMichele »

nitwit005 wrote: post #30
DoreenMichele wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Eating right is health care. Exercise is health care. Decent housing is health care. Drugs and surgeries are medical care and I grew up with the weird idea that it's crisis management, not your first line of defense while acting like diet and lifestyle are annoying details you can stop worrying about if you can get the right prescription.

We've tried and failed to get people to "eat right" and exercise for the last century or so. We've put a stunning amount of effort into that option, and failed.

My dream career was urban planning. We used to design walkable cities and now we design a world that is car centric.

Designing exercise into our daily lives used to be part of the urban planning profession. Paris was redone to put a stop to health issues in overcrowded slums.

Nutritional value of produce has gone down for decades while we strip mine our soils and try to make up for it with chemical fertilizers.

I don't think the obesity epidemic is going to be solved with lecturing people like they aren't trying hard enough to starve themselves while we build "fuck you, pedestrian" environments all over the country.

Re: Study shows most doctors endorsing drugs on X are paid to do so

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Post by nkozyra »

killerdhmo wrote: post #2

Anyone have the actual paper? Does it list who (eg Huberman) is receiving the payola?

Huberman isn't a medical doctor and most of the things he talks about are non drug supplements.

He's probably getting a lot of cash and affiliate money.

Re: Study shows most doctors endorsing drugs on X are paid to do so

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Post by to11mtm »

Good, I'm on my public account. Happy to say this publicly at this point:

After the first time (over 12 years ago, now) I was misdiagnosed (and thus mismedicated) and dealing with a toxic work environment, I wound up in a spot where I 'had' to take a specific medication and do a follow up in a month.

The medication made me nearly useless at work, I had to have my music at ear damaging volume to not fall asleep driving.

At my first follow-up, I stated my concerns, and the doctor basically told me 'deal with it' when I asked for alternatives and whether this was the right thing given the circumstances.

I was so taken aback, it was only then I looked around the room.

The Notepads. The Pens. The Calendars on the wall.

All of it, it wasn't just the company it was that medication, that might work good for some people but FFS not anyone that just has untreated severe ADD/ADHD and childhood bullshit.

It didn't just 'not help', it also really turned me off from getting good help for a bit, which had a lot of consequences I'll live with the rest of my life one way or another.

I think at one point there -were- a couple settlement things related to the whole debacle.

1. So I was forced to see this doctor even though she was out of network and an in network doctor was likely available. For like a thousand dollars of related 'visits' my settlement would have been a hundred bucks.

2. IIRC, the medication was at least one of which, where, another nice benefit I couldn't see in the patient room were some cruises/vacations neatly wrapped as some form of 'knowledge sharing'.

RE Point 2, everyone in IT wonders why we use dumb technology BigCos/Influencers push? Here's why lol

Re: Study shows most doctors endorsing drugs on X are paid to do so

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Post by takinola »

While non-disclosure by doctors prescribing drugs they profit from is unethical, I would be interested to know if doctors change which drugs they prescribe if when paid by different pharma companies ie are doctors recommending the drugs because they are being paid or are they just being paid because they recommend the drugs.

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Post by whimsicalism »

serf wrote: post #25
WarOnPrivacy wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not for a very long time. The current prescription opioid crisis is for the millions of patients in pain unable to get any pain meds (ex: ibupofen following surgery).

>The current prescription opioid crisis is for the millions of patients in pain unable to get any pain med as a person with a dear family member who is addicted to opiates and watches their compulsive behavior of going from new doctor to new doctor for prescriptions and samples I suggest there is more than one 'opioid crisis' unfolding.

i think another thing is people don't realize how well-heeled a lot of opiate addicts are, so they see someone from a similar class background to them talking about the difficulty of getting opiates and they automatically assume they are not drug-seeking.

addiction does not see class, especially for these drugs

Re: Study shows most doctors endorsing drugs on X are paid to do so

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Post by ClassyJacket »

chuckadams wrote: post #8

Doctors who fail to disclose an interest should lose their license. The SEC doesn't tolerate such shenanigans for finance, why should the FDA permit it for drugs?

Doctors who are paid to endorse a drug should lose their licence
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