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Things the guys who stole my phone have texted me to try to get me to unlock it

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Re: Things the guys who stole my phone have texted me to try to get me to unlock it

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What I'm seeing here is that Apple has a really shitty, poorly thought out design. To keep the phone useless to somebody who steals it, you have to keep it exposing your contact information so that people can threaten you.

How exactly can they get the phone number though? The only thing I can think of is if there was an unlocked (no PIN) physical SIM-card, and they could just insert it into another phone.

And yes, e-SIM solves this problem.

Re: Things the guys who stole my phone have texted me to try to get me to unlock it

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If it's wiped then there's no data for them to get?

how did the thieves get the phone number of the author, then? is it on the lock screen when the phone is wiped, in order to facilitate its return?

From the comments, the author was contacted via iMessages from the iCloud email that shows up when it asks for a password.

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Re: Things the guys who stole my phone have texted me to try to get me to unlock it

#44

What I'm seeing here is that Apple has a really shitty, poorly thought out design. To keep the phone useless to somebody who steals it, you have to keep it exposing your contact information so that people can threaten you.

The Lock Screen displays what you ask it to. When you mark a phone as Lost or perform a Remote Erase, you can push down your contact data if you'd like (ie - if you think a "friendly" found the phone and you want it back), or you can elect to type nothing, an offensive message, etc. Likewise for the "Medical ID" feature (which is also available with the phone locked) - you can elect to display lots of details, some details, or no details at all.

Re: Things the guys who stole my phone have texted me to try to get me to unlock it

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What information do thieves get from an erased iPhone and how did they contact the legitimate owner? Does it say something like "locked and linked to sarah96@icloud.com" or can it display custom messages like "owned by sarah xyz, please call +43..."? Could it possibly get you into situations where people can successfully threaten to physically harm you because your contact information doxxed you?

I assume they just eject the SIM card tray and get your phone number from the SIM by simply putting it into another phone.

This person seems to be from the USA and it's an iPhone 14 Pro. The iPhone 14 Pro sold in the USA does not have a SIM card slot. It's eSIM only.

Re: Things the guys who stole my phone have texted me to try to get me to unlock it

#46

This seems like a lot of work for one (or two, once it got to China) people repeatedly trying to get into the phone. I wonder if this is like debt collection agencies where the stolen phones get repeatedly fenced at a steadily decreasing value, and each new owner has a go at sending out these unlock copypastes until it's clear that it's only value is in being scrapped.

Doesn't seem like a lot of work to me. Sending out that message takes a few minutes, and I would assume that most people would simply cave in and delete it. It's gone anyways, so they don't really lose much, and being threatened does things to people.

Re: Things the guys who stole my phone have texted me to try to get me to unlock it

#48

What I'm seeing here is that Apple has a really shitty, poorly thought out design. To keep the phone useless to somebody who steals it, you have to keep it exposing your contact information so that people can threaten you.

From the article comments:

“when trying to reset my phone they are prompted to enter my iCloud password. My iCloud email is also one of the ways to reach me via iMessage. So they used that to contact me”

Re: Things the guys who stole my phone have texted me to try to get me to unlock it

#49

What I'm seeing here is that Apple has a really shitty, poorly thought out design. To keep the phone useless to somebody who steals it, you have to keep it exposing your contact information so that people can threaten you.

Well this also applies if someone friendly finds your phone and wishes to return it. It's a catch 22 there.

Return it to an Apple store? Apple knows who to contact.

Re: Things the guys who stole my phone have texted me to try to get me to unlock it

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>it was in an office building conveniently located around the corner from an Adidas store

lol no.

That location is the Huaqiangbei electronics market - one of the largest electronics markets in the world w/ a thriving 2nd hand parts ecosystem.

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