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Things the guys who stole my phone have texted me to try to get me to unlock it

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Re: Things the guys who stole my phone have texted me to try to get me to unlock it

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post #7

So, what's the right procedure here? Is the dichotomy in the post true? a) remove from account and help the recycle crooks, or b) risk them crack it having your data Aren't there crack wares at this point in the wild?

I don't think b) is realistic at all. They're just using scare tactics.

https://help.apple.com/pdf/security/en_US/apple-platform-sec...

Re: Things the guys who stole my phone have texted me to try to get me to unlock it

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What information do thieves get from an erased iPhone and how did they contact the legitimate owner?

Does it say something like "locked and linked to sarah96@icloud.com" or can it display custom messages like "owned by sarah xyz, please call +43..."?

Could it possibly get you into situations where people can successfully threaten to physically harm you because your contact information doxxed you?

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> I checked Find My and my phone was indeed in China. It looked like it was in an office building conveniently located around the corner from an Adidas store, about 8,000 miles from me. You’d think for a police state, China would be just little bit better at cracking down on obvious crime that happens within their borders. But I guess not.

Well this isn’t against a citizen. Also look at the murders going on in China now.

Do you have any supporting citations on the crime/murder rate in China?

Re: Things the guys who stole my phone have texted me to try to get me to unlock it

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> I checked Find My and my phone was indeed in China. It looked like it was in an office building conveniently located around the corner from an Adidas store, about 8,000 miles from me. You’d think for a police state, China would be just little bit better at cracking down on obvious crime that happens within their borders. But I guess not.

China is not a police state, they are a military state. The US is a police state. In China the local cops are generally far more hands off than an in the US. China is more top-down from the national level. In the US, local police are the typical mechanism for control.

Re: Things the guys who stole my phone have texted me to try to get me to unlock it

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This happened to my sister. She got her phone stolen at a bar in Austin. They’ve tried to phish her multiple times and now it’s gotten to intimidation texts where they are threatening physical and sexual violence to her unless she unlocks the phone. She put it in lost mode right away and due to my assurance she knows she is safe but honestly it does make you kind of just want to unlock and get the nightmare over with.

She has tracked the iPhone via find my through a few us cities and finally it’s in China.

Re: Things the guys who stole my phone have texted me to try to get me to unlock it

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post #12
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it's wiped then there's no data for them to get?

how did the thieves get the phone number of the author, then? is it on the lock screen when the phone is wiped, in order to facilitate its return?

Presumably the phone hasn't actually been wiped, or wasn't when the crooks first got the phone number.

Smart phones generally let you add an Emergency Contact number that anyone can use the phone to call/text without entering a password, in order to facilitate an honest person returning the phone or someone contacting your family if you are found incapacitated.

Re: Things the guys who stole my phone have texted me to try to get me to unlock it

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This seems like a lot of work for one (or two, once it got to China) people repeatedly trying to get into the phone. I wonder if this is like debt collection agencies where the stolen phones get repeatedly fenced at a steadily decreasing value, and each new owner has a go at sending out these unlock copypastes until it's clear that it's only value is in being scrapped.

Re: Things the guys who stole my phone have texted me to try to get me to unlock it

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> I checked Find My and my phone was indeed in China. It looked like it was in an office building conveniently located around the corner from an Adidas store, about 8,000 miles from me. You’d think for a police state, China would be just little bit better at cracking down on obvious crime that happens within their borders. But I guess not.

Misconception: police solve crimes. Truth: police protect their employers.

Misconception: Police are trained to investigate and solve crime

Reality: Police absolutely hate doing the "boring" parts of their jobs. Property crime clearance rate is an abysmal ~10% and everyone knows a handful of people who reported a theft, large or otherwise, and got nothing but a police report.

Meanwhile they had plenty of time to come to our local supermarket and harass a 6 year old that tried to pocket a candybar. They took him into the security camera room and hassled this kid for several hours, zero parents involved.

The American police do not feel required to do their damn jobs, unless it involves physical activity or a gun. The boring stuff, like submitting hundreds of stored rape kits to labs to literally catch rapists, doesn't get done, ever.

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