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A VC-funded startup called WhosHere is trying to steal my social network

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Re: A VC-funded startup called WhosHere is trying to steal my social network

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The opposition only has 1.25m in funding, of which only a fraction is probably reserved for legal purposes like this. If you can get inexpensive representation, just call their bluff. This is not a big corporation you are dealing with. I'll put money on dropped case or some type of amicable settlement that doesn't cost you anything financially, which is your goal.

That is actually what I did. They weren't bluffing though.

Re: A VC-funded startup called WhosHere is trying to steal my social network

#222

Since you do not have the funds to hire a lawyer, it maybe better to look for a settlement in your favour. Even if you hire a lawyer, they will attempt to stall the case until you run out of funds. It maybe hindsight now, but I would of created a corporation and move all your assets under it, (website, apps, etc). Not sure if you can do that now before the default judgement on the lawsuit. I would still hire a lawyer…

All of the assets are under a corporation I started. Considering the type of application it is (location based mobile app for meeting strangers near you), I figured the number of possible liabilities definitely justified creating a layer of protection for myself.

Re: A VC-funded startup called WhosHere is trying to steal my social network

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I hate to be negative about this, but it sounds like you've had a successful product for 2 years. Why are you still working on it if you're sacrificing time, sleep, and a social life to 'break even'? At some point (and I would think well before 400,000 users), why didn't you go out, seek $1.25m for yourself, and win your market over with a better quality product? I do think what is happening is wrong, but why are you…

Not all projects are blockbuster profit projects, some people do things as a labor of love for the joy of doing them. Sometimes great things are made that way. Seeking out $1.25M is not the sort of thing that has any draw for a lot of people, and that's OK.

Exactly. I entertained the idea of fundraising briefly, but realized that it didn't really give me any sort of satisfaction and wasn't something I was very good at. I like to write code, I like to build things, I like interacting with my users and turning their suggestions into reality.

Re: A VC-funded startup called WhosHere is trying to steal my social network

#224

Have you, or anyone representing you company/app, ever approached WhosHere to 'merge' businesses as they claim in their rebuttal blog posting?

I initially contacted WhosHere and offered to build them a Windows Mobile and Windows Phone 7 app for free. They ultimately declined, so I built my own entire network.

Re: A VC-funded startup called WhosHere is trying to steal my social network

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The short answer is this: It's possible, but hard to pull off. First, you would have to do some basic research on court filing procedures. It's not rocket science, but you can't just pop an envelope in the mail addressed to the judge. Once you figure out how to file documents for the case, you need to determine what type of documents to file. E.g. a motion to dismiss might be appropriate if you think the claim is utt…

This is the kind of information that I would be most interested in. I understand that the legal system is very complex (like a programming language with funky syntax), but there IS a process and there ARE standard ways to go about doing things, even if there are particularities for different locations. I suppose this is the kind of thing you learn in law school or from experience in a courtroom, but there is no reaso…

Ok, so here goes. This is by no means a suggestion that anyone become an amateur lawyer, practice law without a license, handle a particular case pro se, or do any other such thing. This is just useful info for anyone who might want to learn some law. (Nothing wrong with learning as much about the world as you can.)

I'm not aware of any single repository of such information other than law school. But if you're willing to consult multiple sources, you can definitely find the information.

For starters, one can always get a copy of the reading lists for various law school classes. You could also look at commercially prepared law school study guides. Pretty much everything you would learn in law school is available in book form, in one place or another. Obviously, law professors and lecturers contribute a great deal of value added in the form of their own experience and idiosyncratic knowledge. But the core material is all written down in various places.

Those types of materials will teach you the basics of American law. The next step is to research the statutes and case law in your jurisdiction. That means federal, state, county, and municipal laws. The statutes can be found by Googling, for example, "Illinois Statutes," or "Chicago Municipal Code." As for case law, assuming you don't have a subscription to a legal database, you can use some Google-fu to find articles that address whatever legal question you're researching. You can also buy a "treatise" on the field of law you're researching; they're packed full of case citations.

As for court procedure--well, first, let me just say that you probably don't want to litigate your own cases unless you're in small claims court. And even then, having a lawyer really, really helps. But if for some reason you want to learn procedure, that'a a bit harder. There are books specific to individual jurisdictions. Also, courts often publish their own procedural rules. All of this can be found through Google.

Again, this won't make you a lawyer, and it won't eliminate the need for one. But I'm a firm believer that anyone can benefit concretely from a solid understanding of the law. There's no better combination than a smart lawyer and a smart client.

Re: A VC-funded startup called WhosHere is trying to steal my social network

#228

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He also didn't mention that he tried to sell his app to them 2 years ago. Or that they made him an extremely generous offer this year.

I never tried to sell them the application. I offered to build a Windows Mobile and Windows Phone 7 application for free. Also, their offer doesn't seem very generous when you consider the extreme likelihood that if they obtained my application, it would never be integrated with their network. Since their offer was a 33% revenue share of that application's revenue, I would never see a dime. Building this was never re…

Brian, the only damage control you should be doing now is apologizing profusely to everyone for trying to manipulate this community. You spun a very sad story and left out incredibly crucial facts that did not serve you. That is simply unacceptable. This is clearly the act of a very immature person who is not ready for the world of business.

Your post is now clearly shameful; the fact that you went even further and began accepting donation money only escalates that shamefulness. Did you really think that the details you left out wouldn't come to light?

You've handled this very poorly. Apologize to the community, apologize to WhosHere before you get smacked with a defamation suit, and hire a damned lawyer to deal with your legitimate trademark and breach of contract lawsuit in a court of law instead of wasting time dancing around in the court of public opinion.

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