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Show HN: movies.io — torrent search like it should be
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#402☑ Massive market opportunity ☑ Tons of room for product innovation ☑ Potential for significant revenue ☐ Ability to do business without being sued out of existence.
And that's why it's not a business. Just a temporary solution for movie lovers until content owners get their stuff straight. In the meantime, it's still a great product building experience for us, even if we make $0 out of it.
Respect. You should totally allow people to download your databases (including those wallpaperesque backgrounds for each movie). Probably as a torrent. :)
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#403I really like what you've done. Torrent sites never had a clean look, and you are making it first. You are trying to make the world suck less, and i dig that. keep up the good work, and I really hope you can establish a legitimate business model based on this.
Thanks a lot. I plan to make a living out of my programming & product building abilities but not in this domain, it's too messy. However, I hope we can reach an agreement with content distributors at least in some countries and replace the torrents by available legal sources. Thanks a lot for the positive feedback, got a lot of hate uncalled for here, that's refreshing :)
You will, of course, be making all code and all data you produce in your career publicly available as a torrent?
If not, why not?
Re: Show HN: movies.io — torrent search like it should be
#404Earlier quoted context omitted.
You make one good point, but I think you overall misunderstand my stance. Firstly, You say you "don't steal (physical things)" as if that makes it ok... I don't think not stealing makes piracy ok, and I didn't say so. What I mean, and what I tried to say, was that I haven't decided whether I think piracy is ethical or not, and I care little enough that I probably won't decide for the forseeable future. ...but you are…
In my eyes (and maybe this is unreasonable of me, anyone else?), you lose credibility when you state, as fact, your own opinions that you know other people disagree on. You begin your comment by saying "You make one good point…" Is that a fact? No. Did you state it as a fact? Yes, in that you stated it without qualifiers. Does that mean you have no credibility? Of course not, come on. For the rest of it, let's rephra…
You begin your comment by saying "You make one good point…" Is that a fact? No. Did you state it as a fact? Yes, in that you stated it without qualifiers. Does that mean you have no credibility? Of course not, come on.
Do you disagree that you misconstrued my stance and only made one other point? If not, I don't see how that applies to me. If so, I'm sorry, I should have used qualifiers, it wasn't obvious to me it was a controversial statement.
Your statement that "piracy is stealing" is a controversial statement, you know this, right? That you stated it as fact is why you decrease in credibility in my eyes. I definitely did not mean you lose all credibility.
For the rest of it, let's rephrase your own logic a bit: "I don't know if sending people to the back of the bus is wrong, but I care little enough that I probably won't decide for the foreseeable future" would be a pretty weak argument against declaring segregation unethical.
I agree that it's unethical. What I ask is, is it not ok for me to send people to the back of the bus, in such a situation? edw519's original comment said something was "clearly unethical", and I responded by saying, maybe, but is it not ok for me to do it anyway, due to the situation?
I'm saying you do hurt people.
Whether this counts as "hurting people" in some sense is debatable, but I hoped it was clear from context that by "hurting people" I meant direct bodily harm, which piracy clearly isn't.
It's debatable, but you dismiss debate...
I don't think it's debatable that someone would have made more money if I paid for something I pirated instead. I also don't think it's debatable that it is impossible to avoid causing people to be worse off due to our actions and inactions. Where's the line? Seems to me, the line society draws is social acceptability.
That's not a good counter an assertion that piracy is unethical.
I countered the assertion that "piracy is unethical" with "ethics don't matter, social acceptability does, and piracy is socially acceptable". Why is this not a good counter?
...your notion that "ethics don't matter, I don't really have to think about it" upsets me, perhaps more than it should.
I certainly don't like the idea that I'm turning a blind eye towards, perhaps even engaging in, unethical actions. But I can't painstakingly decide the ethics of everything I do. I try to do good in the world, I really do. But sometimes I don't know and can't decide, and I have to fall back on the tired old excuse of "social acceptability".
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#405Earlier quoted context omitted.
Disclaimer: I work at a legal online video streaming site. Jaywalking, doing drugs, and underage drinking are fundamentally acts against rules, not acts against entities. A risk is being taken and the burden of failure is on the risk-taker. Selling alcohol to minors is unethical. Do I need to get into that? Acquiring media in an unauthorized fashion is an act against the creator and their licensed distributor. That m…
> Selling alcohol to minors is unethical. Do I need to > get into that? Let's. Example: The legal drinking age in Detroit, Michigan, USA is 21 years of age. The legal drinking age in Windsor, Ontario, Canada (right across the river from Detroit) is 19 years old. A 19 year old US citizen drives across the Detroit River and buys a drink at a bar. Is the bar acting unethically? If not, how is it any different (ethically…
Few things annoy me as much as people who don't stop to think about this. And it's the same with all age lines that were created by people...
For example most people seem to think that having sex with someone who is [country/state's minimum age minus one month] would make you a monster, while [plus one month] is fine, as if that magical line (whether it's drawn at 13, 16, 18, or whatever) actually changes people from naive to "ready for sex".
Re: Show HN: movies.io — torrent search like it should be
#406looking good - though it seems like you're filtering porn. obviously slightly less useful without pornography.
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#407Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'll bite. Why do you think this "clearly unethical"? I don't think it's clear at all. Everyone I know pirates movies, TV shows, and music. Everyone I know also jaywalks. I also know people who use drugs illegally, as well as participate in or facilitate underage drinking, and I don't have a problem with any of it. Are these unethical? Someone clearly thought so. Do I care? You know what the truth is, for me, and eve…
Pirating movies is stealing. There is no other way of putting it. I'll let you decide whether you find stealing ethical or not. It might depend on your social circle. If you were a member of a gang, you'll find it socially acceptable among your social circles to kill people and sell drugs probably.
Theft is defined as unlawful deprivation of use of property. Piracy does not stop the original owner from continuing to sell. It's a lost customer, not a lost sale.
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#408Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'll bite. Why do you think this "clearly unethical"? I don't think it's clear at all. Everyone I know pirates movies, TV shows, and music. Everyone I know also jaywalks. I also know people who use drugs illegally, as well as participate in or facilitate underage drinking, and I don't have a problem with any of it. Are these unethical? Someone clearly thought so. Do I care? You know what the truth is, for me, and eve…
Since you asked, I shall explain. Here is my working definition of something that immoral: Violating the written or unwritten rules of the society one lives in, in a way that is directly harmful to another person or group of people, though ones actions. So taking drugs is fine, since you are not harming another person. Downloading a film is also fine for the same reason. With selling drugs and jaywalking it depends.…
Actually drug taking very much affects other people.
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#409Should be greater a modal link (fancybox or facebox) with trailer! This project is awesome!!!!
It's available code via Github??
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#410Earlier quoted context omitted.
I would say it's clearly ethical, even required, to share knowledge and information with other people. That's pretty much the highest impulse a human has, right up there with "protect your offspring". As Rick Falkvinge is so eloquent in saying, this is our culture, and permitting monopolies on it is just disastrously bad policy. Copyright is a subsidy to distributors, not artists. And the distributors know it. There'…
No offense to you personally, jellicle, but why is this the top comment and why can't I downvote it? This is more of a tangential provocative comment than a response. This is a rather extreme argument. You really think the impulse to share is universally stronger than the impulse to be secretive, the exact inverse, for example? Specifically, what about private data? How far does this ethical obligation to share go? H…
> No offense to you personally, jellicle, but why is this the top comment and why can't I downvote it?
It's the top comment because HN's formula(votes, time lapsed) ranked it highest; and you can't downvotte replies to your comments.