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Re: Microsoft blocks Windows 11 workaround that enabled local accounts

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Post by benterix »

mistercheph wrote: post #101
whywhywhywhy wrote: post #75

I'm definitely not one of those people who thinks Windows should stay frozen forever as Windows XP, I appreciate we're finally getting 15-20 year old features like search filtering in the task manager. But whoever's bonus metric is tricking people to sign in with MS accounts is really making it a gross experience. I managed to finally get my new machines install on a local account using "OOBE\BYPASSNRO" although none…

Pirate it next time!

Will pirating it actually solve the issue? MS is not after one-time cash payment (heck, they even offered the upgrade for free), what they want is long-term user milking in various ways, some of them looking pretty grey to me.

Re: Microsoft blocks Windows 11 workaround that enabled local accounts

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Post by veqz »

M95D wrote: post #114
ta1243 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The only thing holding me from Linux I've spent the last 25 years using linux and seeing this statement. There's always something.

How long does it take in linux for the context menu to open? In fact, is there a context menu at all?

Not sure if the question was asked with sarcasm or not, but, me being me, I actually tested it here as soon as I read it: It's instant. OnMouseDown event, if you will.

Using KDE Plasma 6.

Re: Microsoft blocks Windows 11 workaround that enabled local accounts

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Post by thefz »

xcv123 wrote: post #38
thefz wrote: post #20

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https://brew.sh https://asahilinux.org

Bare bone functionality and half of the hardware not working. No thanks, keep your apple computers, they are going to be in a landfill soon anyway.

Re: Microsoft blocks Windows 11 workaround that enabled local accounts

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Post by Kim_Bruning »

haspok wrote: post #93
Dalewyn wrote: post #72

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>It may provides some features for certain types of users, but I really don't see any reason for forcing a Microsoft account. To play Devil's Advocate, I can see some: * Backups. Let's face it, most people do not and will not take backups and yet they all cry when they inevitably suffer data loss. OneDrive syncing everything at gunpoint is a holy grail in the face of this problem. * Sync. Clearly, most people like al…

Wrt licences, these days laptops have their Windows licence burnt in their BIOS (and this has been the case for some time now). Backups and sync are great, except if someone doesn't want to upload all their data to the cloud. There could be many reasons for this, I'm sure you can list some of them too.

I understand that some cloud providers (now) scan stuff you put into cloud storage. This could be a problem if you're dumping terabytes of stuff. Maybe a million monkeys on a million keyboards might never trigger a false positive on modern sophisticated scanners; but now make it a billion or a trillion.

Re: Microsoft blocks Windows 11 workaround that enabled local accounts

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Post by neonsunset »

ptx wrote: post #130
HeckFeck wrote: post #51

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The only thing I can praise is the .NET Core ecosystem. C#, ASP.NET and EF is very comfy for web dev compared to my experiences with Java and its thousand moving parts. That said, I still fear what may come. The decrees from on high concocted by the unscrupulous bugmen that are breathing absolute contempt for their users. Who can ponder their designs while maintaining his conscience?

.NET Core would be great if it weren't tainted by the New Microsoft policy of turning all tools into spyware. Now you have to remember to set DOTNET_CLI_TELEMETRY_OPTOUT=1 everywhere and meticulously ensure that it doesn't get stripped from the environment when launching subprocesses, changing users, etc.

The list of what is gathered: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/core/tools/telemetr...

As you can see, it is system data and basic crash reporting, something that helps with the health of .NET ecosystem and has no monetary value.

Re: Microsoft blocks Windows 11 workaround that enabled local accounts

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Post by ta1243 »

baq wrote: post #47
ta1243 wrote: post #25

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> The only thing holding me from Linux I've spent the last 25 years using linux and seeing this statement. There's always something.

Let's be honest here, the something is 99% drivers. It was printers, then it was wifi, now it's gpus. DNNs and LLMs at least made the compute part of the gpu driver Linux-native (from the vendors' perspective), one would hope the graphics part of the graphics processor would come next, but alas making big iron do work is done from macos and windows laptops.

25 years and I haven't had drivers blocking my usage

On the other hand I'm sat next to someone really struggling with getting a windows machine to talk to a network at the moment, half an hour of "General failure"s, then eventually they got it working but the system clock was months out

So much more complex than linux it's crazy. Windows will never be ready for prime time until you can literally plug in and load a webpage like you can with a linux box.

Re: Microsoft blocks Windows 11 workaround that enabled local accounts

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Post by [deleted] »

HeckFeck wrote: post #51
cjk2 wrote: post #4

More user hostility. Less user choice. I remember a few years ago on here everyone crowing about the new Microsoft and how it wasn't like the old one. It's notably worse a this point.

The only thing I can praise is the .NET Core ecosystem. C#, ASP.NET and EF is very comfy for web dev compared to my experiences with Java and its thousand moving parts. That said, I still fear what may come. The decrees from on high concocted by the unscrupulous bugmen that are breathing absolute contempt for their users. Who can ponder their designs while maintaining his conscience?

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Re: Microsoft blocks Windows 11 workaround that enabled local accounts

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Post by Kim_Bruning »

the4anoni wrote: post #103
jasonvorhe wrote: post #74

Okay then, I'll just switch my gaming rig to Ubuntu and fiddle with Wine or whatever to get my Quake Champions running. Might take a small performance hit but I'm not going to use Windows with a Microsoft account. Not ever. Not going to happen.

Up to 10% performance hit isn't small. Controversial opinion, but linux isn't good for gaming even in 2024. People who are making such things possible are doing great piece of work, but I would say it's more about gaming industry isn't ready for this. Developers still don't case about linux, performance hit is too big, anti-cheat systems have issues and Linux desktop is too fragmented. OOBE\BYPASSNRO still works at l…

I think it depends what games you play. Steam actually allows you to return a game if it doesn't run on your system (in fact they have a very generous return policy indeed). GOG is a bit more strict, and a bit more hit-and-miss, but also Mostly Works (tm).

The unifying factor is steam and/or heroic games launcher (and one or two others besides), which set up your system to run a particular game.

Most of the games I've bought in the past year or so Just Work (tm). Obviously YMMV.

When it comes to GOG, hilariously, sometimes installing the windows version _on linux_ is the easier option, what with wine/proton forming the universal compatibility layer.

I'm sort of wondering if we might evolve to a point where there's proton-for-windows, and then everyone can just target proton exclusively.

Re: Microsoft blocks Windows 11 workaround that enabled local accounts

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Post by xcv123 »

thefz wrote: post #154
xcv123 wrote: post #38

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https://brew.sh https://asahilinux.org

Bare bone functionality and half of the hardware not working. No thanks, keep your apple computers, they are going to be in a landfill soon anyway.

Most of the hardware is supported now. My old HP laptop disintegrated within a few years and became landfill, but my 9 year old Mac is indestructible and runs anything I want. Linux, Windows, macOS. Also repaired it myself (new battery, new left speaker). The latest Macs are built like tanks and will easily last 10+ years.
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