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Re: Microsoft blocks Windows 11 workaround that enabled local accounts

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I recently had to install windows on 2 computers after some years without doing it. Had to spend an entire day debloating the thing. Had to use a handful of tools and powershell scripts to do it. I still can't imagine how they managed to make a context menu open in almost a full second. In Windows 9x on a 200Mhz it was instant. A useless one too, because all the options that matter are in the old one. The only thing…

privacy.sexy is pretty good

Re: Microsoft blocks Windows 11 workaround that enabled local accounts

#32

It really seems Microsoft is trying hard to push users to Linux (or other alternatives)

It's amazing how they keep digging their own grave.

Don't forget that we all are in an echo chamber. Most people are not pushed anywhere, they don't care. They don't even know that Microsoft is hostile.

Re: Microsoft blocks Windows 11 workaround that enabled local accounts

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I have a theory, which I have no way of backing up or testing at all, that the entire slump in the laptop segment is driven by the fact that Windows is just utterly user-hostile garbage, and there aren’t any alternatives really, other than MacOS, which is too tied to Apple. Like any reasonable tech savvy person I use Linux of course, but I’d have trouble suggesting it… lots of people just don’t want to use the termin…

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Your reply seems entirely focused on Apple, when the article is about Windows 11. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

Re: Microsoft blocks Windows 11 workaround that enabled local accounts

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post #25

I recently had to install windows on 2 computers after some years without doing it. Had to spend an entire day debloating the thing. Had to use a handful of tools and powershell scripts to do it. I still can't imagine how they managed to make a context menu open in almost a full second. In Windows 9x on a 200Mhz it was instant. A useless one too, because all the options that matter are in the old one. The only thing…

> The only thing holding me from Linux I've spent the last 25 years using linux and seeing this statement. There's always something.

It might be different people saying that, and with time, some blockers are removed, some people migrate, and a new set of would be linux users get bumped up in the queue where they are now at their last obstacle to using linux.

Re: Microsoft blocks Windows 11 workaround that enabled local accounts

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I have a theory, which I have no way of backing up or testing at all, that the entire slump in the laptop segment is driven by the fact that Windows is just utterly user-hostile garbage, and there aren’t any alternatives really, other than MacOS, which is too tied to Apple. Like any reasonable tech savvy person I use Linux of course, but I’d have trouble suggesting it… lots of people just don’t want to use the termin…

I agree. I've been a Linux user since 2017, and in the last year transitioned to an M1 MBP for the battery life (cheaper than buying an inverter+batteries in South Africa with loadshedding).

Tried to upgrade to a new machine last month. New-ish (and not name brand) hardware made Linux unusable on it (keyboard & BT wouldn't work), while Windows was passable. After some work I decided to try working on Windows again. Honestly the worst OS experience I've had in years, because at every step there's some default setting that basically equates to "Microsoft will do whatever they want on your machine" and it's hard to turn off permanently.

Then I tried to go back to Manjaro where I had a stable work experience from 2020-2022, and compared to macOS, it was just a pain getting the same dev environment back up. Ubuntu wouldn't have been much different.

I dislike Apple for a lot of things, and really don't like the absurd Apple Tax on having a usable amount of RAM, but it is still the best (and most stable) dev machine I've had in years.

Re: Microsoft blocks Windows 11 workaround that enabled local accounts

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More user hostility. Less user choice. I remember a few years ago on here everyone crowing about the new Microsoft and how it wasn't like the old one. It's notably worse a this point.

I’m very uncomfortable with the degree to which I’ve become dependent on VSCode, GitHub, and Typescript. Microsoft has the same incentives to exploit their users now that they always have.

I've purposely avoided all three of those for that very reason. I've spent 30 years working with Microsoft stacks. It paid the mortgage off but it's been hell from a churn and lock in perspective. So much ROI was wasted on rewrites because of their policies and schizophrenic direction changes.

I'm in a different space now and I am blessed that my editor is vim, my language is either Go or Julia and my VCS is Fossil.

Re: Microsoft blocks Windows 11 workaround that enabled local accounts

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post #4

More user hostility. Less user choice. I remember a few years ago on here everyone crowing about the new Microsoft and how it wasn't like the old one. It's notably worse a this point.

I wonder when Europe starts to stop this and also forces Microsoft to stop users from the hard requirement for an online account. It's about time.

I mean, they could make a ton of money by charging users for Windows without tracking/online accounts/bloatware.

Re: Microsoft blocks Windows 11 workaround that enabled local accounts

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post #20

I have a theory, which I have no way of backing up or testing at all, that the entire slump in the laptop segment is driven by the fact that Windows is just utterly user-hostile garbage, and there aren’t any alternatives really, other than MacOS, which is too tied to Apple. Like any reasonable tech savvy person I use Linux of course, but I’d have trouble suggesting it… lots of people just don’t want to use the termin…

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https://brew.sh

https://asahilinux.org

Re: Microsoft blocks Windows 11 workaround that enabled local accounts

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post #4

More user hostility. Less user choice. I remember a few years ago on here everyone crowing about the new Microsoft and how it wasn't like the old one. It's notably worse a this point.

Honestly I think both things are true: the consumer apps division of MS is more open and is being allowed to follow the money, even to other OSs. The Windows division is doubling down on all of the worse practices that the law allows them to try to extract some more value from their users. Thankfully the EU has forced them to curb some of these practices, even if the process is still intentioanlly obtuse. For example…

I would rather hope the vendor has the right policy, not that a multi-national union forces it to have the right policy.

Re: Microsoft blocks Windows 11 workaround that enabled local accounts

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The sad reality is that Linux that e.g. my mom and dad could use day in and day out without any tech support always feels like it's a few years away, and has felt that way for decades now. Linux won the server space, but outside of that, it's a hard sell to suggest anyone not tech savvy should use it. I'm sure there's loads of people who do use it despite the pains anyway, but for the wider audience I don't really se…

I think we crossed the point where Linux is less shitty than Windows. KDE and XFCE can compete.

That could very well be, but less shitty is the wrong metric. Can get shit done is the right metric, regular users don't care about corporate telemetry and adware so long as it doesn't get in the way of getting their stuff done. A good example of what I mean is a work event I attended a year or two ago. We had a bunch of guys up on the stage and between the lot they probably had over a century of combined Linux experience. Still, it took them a good 10-15 minutes to get the projector working. Now imagine a regular user in that situation.
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