Ukraine build 40 sea-babies..
its unclear how efficient they are in deep ocean.
Why would they not be?
China built 10 missile cruisers in 48 months, packing 1,120 missiles
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Re: China built 10 missile cruisers in 48 months, packing 1,120 missiles
#22“Spokesman Wu Qian of the Chinese People’s Liberation Army Defense Ministry recently said, “The Chinese military is ready, alongside the Russian military, to uphold justice worldwide.” This means the US might have to face both China and Russia at the same time. Wu Qian highlighted that China’s military strength could match all of NATO’s conventional forces, sending a strong message to NATO countries. “ Maybe the iPho…
> This means the US might have to face both China and Russia at the same time. In terms of GDP, that's like saying "China might have to face the US and Belgium at the same time". Russia's military output is constrained enough that importing shells from North Korea was a significant boost for them.
Putin is a war criminal, and let's hope Ukraine inflicts on Russia, a generational defeat. However, you are dealing with a country, that can put 2 millions workers in full war industrial footing.
And whose electronic countermeasures, by the Pentagon own admission, have been recently defeating some extremely sophisticated US weapons.
Don't underestimate an enemy, who can suffer losses unthinkable for Western Armies, with minimal danger of societal collapse....
"Russia's electronic warfare has repeatedly foiled American precision weapons in Ukraine." - https://www.businessinsider.com/russian-electronic-warfare-s...
"Every day, Russia produces 12,320 artillery shells" - https://bulgarianmilitary.com/2024/05/26/every-day-russia-pr...
Re: China built 10 missile cruisers in 48 months, packing 1,120 missiles
#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
Of course a Chinese propagandist would say that about their forces, with truth being at best coincidence. True world powers need not make empty boasts nor fear paper Poo bears.
Are you telling me China built the largest navy in the World (per number of ships) and now....will NOT use it?
Just like their houses
Re: China built 10 missile cruisers in 48 months, packing 1,120 missiles
#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
its unclear how efficient they are in deep ocean.
Why would they not be?
Because deep ocean game is very different, those cruisers will be moving constantly with 60mph speed in much larger area than black sea, so one need more robust intelligence system and higher speed and range to catch them.
Re: China built 10 missile cruisers in 48 months, packing 1,120 missiles
#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
I’ve seen people claim that China has no desire to be a global hegemon and just wants regional security but this shoots that notion in the back of the head.
I don't know about you, but I'm not eager to alter my priors based on a single, context-free quotation from bulgarianmilitary.com.
The site had multiple scoops so far, and never failed me until now. I agree on a first landing can look suspicions but, until proof of the contrary, and did not happen yet, I consider it somewhat reliable.
Re: China built 10 missile cruisers in 48 months, packing 1,120 missiles
#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
Of course a Chinese propagandist would say that about their forces, with truth being at best coincidence. True world powers need not make empty boasts nor fear paper Poo bears.
Are you telling me China built the largest navy in the World (per number of ships) and now....will NOT use it?
Are you telling me China built the largest navy in the world (hahahaha little pooh bear with small honey-pot syndrome) and now... Will use it in violation of international law? I don't believe you're high enough ranking in the Chinese military to be privvy to any such plans. You're welcome to come back with evidence, though.
Re: China built 10 missile cruisers in 48 months, packing 1,120 missiles
#27BulgarianMilitary.com is a Russian/Chinese propaganda site.
Why do you say that? If that is the case, then they have been reliably reporting on Russian own losses....
Re: China built 10 missile cruisers in 48 months, packing 1,120 missiles
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
> This means the US might have to face both China and Russia at the same time. In terms of GDP, that's like saying "China might have to face the US and Belgium at the same time". Russia's military output is constrained enough that importing shells from North Korea was a significant boost for them.
Putin is a war criminal, and let's hope Ukraine inflicts on Russia, a generational defeat. However, you are dealing with a country, that can put 2 millions workers in full war industrial footing. And whose electronic countermeasures, by the Pentagon own admission, have been recently defeating some extremely sophisticated US weapons. Don't underestimate an enemy, who can suffer losses unthinkable for Western Armies, w…
That's not a particularly high number for a country at war. During WW2 the US averaged around 500,000 artillery shells produced per day. Even in Russia, they are in the early stages of ramping up wartime production, and the west is deliberately hesitant to produce substantially beyond peacetime levels.
Re: China built 10 missile cruisers in 48 months, packing 1,120 missiles
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
Putin is a war criminal, and let's hope Ukraine inflicts on Russia, a generational defeat. However, you are dealing with a country, that can put 2 millions workers in full war industrial footing. And whose electronic countermeasures, by the Pentagon own admission, have been recently defeating some extremely sophisticated US weapons. Don't underestimate an enemy, who can suffer losses unthinkable for Western Armies, w…
That's not a particularly high number for a country at war. During WW2 the US averaged around 500,000 artillery shells produced per day. Even in Russia, they are in the early stages of ramping up wartime production, and the west is deliberately hesitant to produce substantially beyond peacetime levels.
"Russia producing three times more artillery shells than US and Europe for Ukraine" - https://edition.cnn.com/2024/03/10/politics/russia-artillery...
They did not go to Korea and China because they can't produce ammunition. They went because they consume so much of it...
"The U.S. Army will boost production of 155mm artillery shells more than sixfold to 85,000 a month" - https://www.defensenews.com/digital-show-dailies/2023/03/28/...
Just for comparison...in the Donbas region, Russia is estimated to have fired 40,000–60,000 152mm shells per day...
That is the US Army current monthly production in two days...
Re: China built 10 missile cruisers in 48 months, packing 1,120 missiles
#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are you telling me China built the largest navy in the World (per number of ships) and now....will NOT use it?
Are you telling me China built the largest navy in the world (hahahaha little pooh bear with small honey-pot syndrome) and now... Will use it in violation of international law? I don't believe you're high enough ranking in the Chinese military to be privvy to any such plans. You're welcome to come back with evidence, though.
> Will use it in violation of international law?
Checks notes: ....Uyghur camps...Hong Kong...takes whole South China Sea...
Yeap, my notes say it will.