The Collapse Is Coming. Will Humanity Adapt?
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Re: The Collapse Is Coming. Will Humanity Adapt?
#2As logical as it is, I think advocacy of “degrowth” is a sure formula to put the far right in the driver’s seat and anyone who is seriously concerned about survival as forming another ingroup-outgrouo thing needs and answer to that.
Re: The Collapse Is Coming. Will Humanity Adapt?
#3As logical as it is, I think advocacy of “degrowth” is a sure formula to put the far right in the driver’s seat and anyone who is seriously concerned about survival as forming another ingroup-outgrouo thing needs and answer to that.
"degrowth" is one of those things you don't actually need to believe in, the world will do it for us if we don't do it first. I just want to minimize the collateral damage.
If folks refuse, so be it, I did my ethical duty in making sure they were well informed.
Re: The Collapse Is Coming. Will Humanity Adapt?
#4As logical as it is, I think advocacy of “degrowth” is a sure formula to put the far right in the driver’s seat and anyone who is seriously concerned about survival as forming another ingroup-outgrouo thing needs and answer to that.
They’re in the passenger seat holding a gun on everyone’s head. We are fucked either way
Re: The Collapse Is Coming. Will Humanity Adapt?
#5Sundays on HN are a weird thing. It’s the only day of the week when I see the nutty anti-car takes, de-growth takes, climate doomerism, etc. Monday through Saturday, tech news (mostly). Sunday, unhinged nutballism.
Re: The Collapse Is Coming. Will Humanity Adapt?
#6Maybe I'm just getting old, but I don't think that apocalypse porn helps the situation. I don't feel a need to see that new Civil War movie.
Re: The Collapse Is Coming. Will Humanity Adapt?
#7Sundays on HN are a weird thing. It’s the only day of the week when I see the nutty anti-car takes, de-growth takes, climate doomerism, etc. Monday through Saturday, tech news (mostly). Sunday, unhinged nutballism.
What about this is "nutballism"?
Reducing dependency on cars and preventing climate disaster are objective goods.
Re: The Collapse Is Coming. Will Humanity Adapt?
#8To anyone feeling anxious about the future after reading this article:
We have the technology to pause the worst effects of climate change indefinitely for a few billion dollars a year: https://news.uchicago.edu/radical-solution-address-climate-c...
It’s far from a complete solution, but it works well enough that the future described in the article is much more a dark fantasy than a likely reality.
Re: The Collapse Is Coming. Will Humanity Adapt?
#9As logical as it is, I think advocacy of “degrowth” is a sure formula to put the far right in the driver’s seat and anyone who is seriously concerned about survival as forming another ingroup-outgrouo thing needs and answer to that.
“De-growth”, like communism, is perfectly logical until you start talking about implementation. Then it starts sounding like A Modest Proposal. Who has to sacrifice? Who isn’t allowed to build, or have kids, or use specific technology? I have this funny suspicion it would end up being poor people
Re: The Collapse Is Coming. Will Humanity Adapt?
#10I've made peace with the fact that a portion of humanity is always convinced the world will end soon.
I guess it serves some evolutionary purpose, since it's so deeply ingrained.
We've done quite well with these people among us so far, despite them always, since the dawn of humanity, being wrong.