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PyCon US 2024 Recap

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Re: PyCon US 2024 Recap

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This does not mention PyCon US 2024 was one of the extremely, extremely few conferences which did the right thing and had a mask mandate. > We are nice people and many of us and our fellow community members can’t attend without health and safety guidelines in place. We want PyCon US to be an event that everyone feels safe attending. PyCon US is exceptional in that we have people attending from all over the world—last…

I guess you have to find a balance between being able to have a “normal” event where people can meet each other without special medical precautions and accommodating immuno-compromised and health-anxious people. I’m really glad there’s a sense of normalcy after the pandemic again and I would not be willing to wear a mask to all such events all the time, I don’t mind wearing one to accommodate people in smaller groups…

> I’m really glad there’s a sense of normalcy after the pandemic again

Except we are not after the pandemic, it's made up by politicians and the rich. The second highest measured covid ratio in wastewater across the United States was in 2023 December-January. It's just the virus now kills a lot less people but its long term effects, named "long covid" is a debilitating disability that people prefer to pretend not existing.

Re: PyCon US 2024 Recap

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Really nice to see no-GIL Python become closer and closer to reality.

There's been a no-GIL Python for about a decade, and it's still OSS on BitBucket somewhere with a PSF license (I used it for quite a while), but at the time, the community didn't want to wrestle with some of the issues, like, do you want to forego atomicity for list appends, or do you want to slow them down (Skython took the former route)?

https://lwn.net/Articles/640177/

Re: PyCon US 2024 Recap

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I felt pretty disappointed going to the conference. Though it’s a pivotal and awesome time to be a Python dev and historic to remove the GIL. I found the talks to be very low information and sometimes not really relevant to the title and description of the talk. For example the “Blender integration” talk was 40 minutes with 8 minutes of blender discussion. The talk on Mocking was extremely basic and spent most of the time describing the concept of unit testing. Talks during the end of the day tended to be better than the morning ones. They need more web development experts of this committee, most of the web dev talks were rehashing online tutorials or felt that way.

Re: PyCon US 2024 Recap

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Kit! Your post is great! And I enjoyed getting to know you at the PyLadies auction, too.

PyCon is overwhelming and delightful in every way -- and it just gets more so every time I attend. That said, you managed to see a ton of amazing stuff and people, which is quite impressive.

I hope to see you back in Pittsburgh next year!

Re: PyCon US 2024 Recap

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This does not mention PyCon US 2024 was one of the extremely, extremely few conferences which did the right thing and had a mask mandate. > We are nice people and many of us and our fellow community members can’t attend without health and safety guidelines in place. We want PyCon US to be an event that everyone feels safe attending. PyCon US is exceptional in that we have people attending from all over the world—last…

If you are immuno-compromised or living with someone who is, shouldn't you not be travelling thousands of miles to a large, packed conference anyway? Since masks are not 100% effective. To each their own, but I personally will not be attending PyCon next year because it was exhausting to wear a mask for 5 days straight.

So let's exclude those people from society, that's what you are saying. It's not just traveling thousands of miles, it's boarding a bus or entering any indoor space with unmasked people. And yes, that exclusion is the reality most of us face.

This has echoes of how people with AIDS were considered back then.

Re: PyCon US 2024 Recap

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post #25

Kit! Your post is great! And I enjoyed getting to know you at the PyLadies auction, too. PyCon is overwhelming and delightful in every way -- and it just gets more so every time I attend. That said, you managed to see a ton of amazing stuff and people, which is quite impressive. I hope to see you back in Pittsburgh next year!

I am so excited that I had the chance to meet you! I am planning to be at Pittsburgh next year as well. Looking forward to it!

Re: PyCon US 2024 Recap

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

To each their own but I'm pretty glad masks are on their way out. I wore one when I had to during the pandemic and I'm quite happy that I didn't have to wear one to any of the conferences I've been to since the pandemic ended.

Thanks for excluding me from the conferences you attend. I am astounded that four years in we still need to explain that a) masks are effective in stopping community transmission b) masks worn by the source are more effective or, in other words, your mask protects me while my mask protects you. How is this new? No, your stance is absolutely selfish -- not uncommon of course, but it is selfish.

There is no need to label him selfish. You don’t know him.

He isn’t any more selfish than you are, traveling to a crowded conference while living with an immuno-compromised person, and on top of that expecting people to bend over to your requirements.

Re: PyCon US 2024 Recap

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

To each their own but I'm pretty glad masks are on their way out. I wore one when I had to during the pandemic and I'm quite happy that I didn't have to wear one to any of the conferences I've been to since the pandemic ended.

Thanks for excluding me from the conferences you attend. I am astounded that four years in we still need to explain that a) masks are effective in stopping community transmission b) masks worn by the source are more effective or, in other words, your mask protects me while my mask protects you. How is this new? No, your stance is absolutely selfish -- not uncommon of course, but it is selfish.

What's selfish is actually demanding that society changes for you (or a minority of immuno-compromised individuals). COVID was one thing, but we're way past it now and society had to go back to the normal way of things.
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