"You don't exist. Go away!" said the server.
This Message Does Not Exist
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Re: This Message Does Not Exist
#172Oh, finally a chance to put my Philosophy degree to use! The error says the "message" does not exist, but the message is not the same as the text. The message is an object that can be saved or discarded, and it contains text. The text still exists and can be copied, but the message is gone and can't be saved anymore.
The question remains: how can something that does not exist contain anything?
I speaks to Microsoft's creativity that they are able to redefine logic that far.
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#173Earlier quoted context omitted.
The problem is that people's brains just fucking shut down once it's computer related. "What was the error message?" "Idk I didn't read it." "Well here it is, it's asking for your password." "Ok what should I do?" This type of shit is more common than it should be. So many people just give up on computer related things that isn't the happy path.
Counterpoint, when a random dialog asks for a password, the answer is not always "give the password", so maybe that's part of the reason why people find it so confusing.
When you can't open Outlook because you're getting an error, ya might need to fuckin sign in. This is sadly a common occurrence.
Re: This Message Does Not Exist
#174You could argue from the perspective of the server this is a true statement. The message does not exist. If the server stored a history of messages, current and deleted, it would not be in the logs. What you received is something different. Like a message but not a message.
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#175I want to ask a simpler question - why don't I have a button to make the message exist again if I have the content?
Re: This Message Does Not Exist
#176Oh, finally a chance to put my Philosophy degree to use! The error says the "message" does not exist, but the message is not the same as the text. The message is an object that can be saved or discarded, and it contains text. The text still exists and can be copied, but the message is gone and can't be saved anymore.
The question remains: how can something that does not exist contain anything?
The sane will tell you that Necronomicon doesn't exist in our world, yet we have a vague idea of what it contains and we're sure that it contains only the most repulsive of things.
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#177I want to ask a simpler question - why don't I have a button to make the message exist again if I have the content?
Imagine the meetings and comitees to decide how such a button should be named. They would brobably involve "AI" somehow
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#178I want to ask a simpler question - why don't I have a button to make the message exist again if I have the content?
That would probably allow inserting any message you want into history. Malicious messages too. "Your honor, server chat history shows that the defendant indeed sent that explicit message to my client". Inserting on server messages sent to you seems pretty crazy idea for anyone who ever programmed any chat functionality.
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#179Earlier quoted context omitted.
Shareholder-driven growth targets mean it's no longer good enough to target the 20th percentile users, who might have reading comprehension at a 5th grade level. You have to hit the 10th percentile, or the 5th. Be glad that you still get text instead of pictures.
Tangentially related, I used to work at a company where the C level was demanding all of our help documents be videos. They couldn't understand that it made them unsearchable, took way more time, did not allow branching or decision making in the processes, if anything in the workflow or even UI changed the entire thing would need to be redone, takes up a ton of space, is not easily skimmable etc. "but it's easier tha…
I was thinking you could do product demos / help videos combined as an acceptance test suite.
You would programmatically build the self help tutorial like a ui test (use a test browser and it would be like cypress/selenium). You would write a script, (ai) text to speech, and you could even respond to user input for branching.
These would be, de facto, your acceptance test suite and your tutorials will flag when they break on new ui developments, helping to keep them up to date