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Re: This Message Does Not Exist

#131
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This is the most Microsoft error message I have ever seen

SharePoint is supposedly one of the keystones of Microsoft.

The answer to "how can I find all SharePoint Sites where I am a member?" is:

> Search SharePoint for contentclass:STS_Site

How is this, and op, cluster f possible? How do these decisions get into prod?

Re: This Message Does Not Exist

#132
While the warning may seem obtuse, it’s obviously referring to a message in a state of limbo. It exists in some kind of cache (and therefore only locally) but all traces of it have been deleted on the remote storage. It actually makes sense to me, and I think MS handled this edge case very well. I actually cannot think of a better way to handle it.

Re: This Message Does Not Exist

#136
post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A typical person's head will explode at the mention of the words "cache" and "server". They will then go into a blind panic that their data is going to be "permanently deleted".

"locally", "the cloud"

Is it local if I stay in the same ZIP code?

Re: This Message Does Not Exist

#137
post #91
post #85

Everyone is snickering at this and talking about philosophy, but there is actually a legitimate point being made here, albeit obliquely: how do you explain to a non-technical user that their data has been deleted on the server, but that their client still has a cached copy that they might want to try to salvage somehow? I submit that this is a nontrivial problem worthy of serious consideration.

> how do you explain to a non-technical user that their data has been deleted on the server, but that their client still has a cached copy that they might want to try to salvage somehow? How about: "This message has been deleted from the mail server, but Outlook still has it in its temporary cache on this device. You can copy the message contents, or discard it from the cache, at which point it will be permanently de…

How about a dialog with the buttons "Try again", "Save to file...", "Copy to clipboard" and "Discard contents"?

Re: This Message Does Not Exist

#139

This reminds of a choice I once saw between the following: “Save this Credit Card” Or “Never save this Credit Card” With hashing and things, the latter is certainly possible, but I got a good chuckle out of it.

Along those lines, "Don't use cookies on this site".

Uses localStorage of course.

Re: This Message Does Not Exist

#140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

this is the only correct answer. "a non-technical user has no idea what a server or cache is" sure, but they can learn. The average person is much smarter than you think they are (when it comes to matters that actually affect their day to day life). If they don't get your explanation, it's almost always because (1) they don't care, they don't see why it matters to them (it often doesn't) (2) you're not explaining it…

The problem is that people's brains just fucking shut down once it's computer related. "What was the error message?" "Idk I didn't read it." "Well here it is, it's asking for your password." "Ok what should I do?" This type of shit is more common than it should be. So many people just give up on computer related things that isn't the happy path.

Counterpoint, when a random dialog asks for a password, the answer is not always "give the password", so maybe that's part of the reason why people find it so confusing.
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