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IRS Direct File to open to all 50 states and D.C. for 2025 tax season

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Re: IRS Direct File to open to all 50 states and D.C. for 2025 tax season

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It's pretty dumb that this has an upper income limit that covers plenty of regular W2 wage workers

What is the income limit? The IRS's publication describing the program for 2023 lists a 1099-INT income limit but no W-2 income limit: https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p5917.pdf

"You can’t use Direct File if your wages are more than $200,000 ($160,200 if you had more than one employer)." from https://directfile.irs.gov/income

Re: IRS Direct File to open to all 50 states and D.C. for 2025 tax season

#72
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As a Brit it's baffling that this is even an issue. I filed my taxes online with HMRC for free this year (we call it Self Assessment), it took 20 minutes, and I received a 4 figure refund in ~2 weeks directly in to my bank account.

the tax difficulty in the US is overstated, we have plenty of services that will let you do it for 20 minutes for free. the most popular one is obnoxious and tries to upsell you often, but there are alternatives and you don't need to pay

This is true, but up until recently, tax filing companies would also do all kinds of underhanded tricks to make free filing difficult. For example, Turbotax had two different tiers of free tax filing software, one with a much lower income threshold than the federal mandate. You only find out you're in that tier when it comes time to file. Guess which one they bought tons of google ads for?

Re: IRS Direct File to open to all 50 states and D.C. for 2025 tax season

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This works against the governments interest, as they'll lose revenue from all the fines they give to people who accidentally fuck up their tax return.

1. It surely costs way more in employee expenses to monitor, correct, and collect such small fines. Plenty of times they'll just let a $200 fine go because it's not worth the effort to collect. 2. Taxes are a means to an end, as is the government. There's no benefit to fining people for clerical mistakes besides encouraging them to not make them. There's no value created by fines. There's no shareholder greedily pock…

1. citation needed

2. In an ideal world, yes. In practice, citation needed.

Re: IRS Direct File to open to all 50 states and D.C. for 2025 tax season

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post #60

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I do get a 20% bonus at this company and I think it is attributed to that. It was my first time getting that bonus. What do I even do here? Talk to HR? I don't think I can do anything and just suck it up and pay it and expect it next year? I dunno.

Yes, you got a big bonus and it wasn't taxed when you got it. I don't know why you would be confused as to why your liability went up?

It absolutely was taxed. I also have never received a paycheck that wasn't pre-taxed. It was something like a $30k bonus and I received about $17kish of it.

Be more condescending though, that's helpful, wise one.

I didn't say I KNEW it was the issue, I said it was potentially that. The IRS doesn't say "Hey you messed up here, fix this, that's the problem." They just send you a bill, which sucks. I had NO information on my $150k house sale tax and had NO idea what information they needed to rectify it.

Re: IRS Direct File to open to all 50 states and D.C. for 2025 tax season

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It's a huge problem that when the opposition comes into power, they immediately try to revert and undermine what the previous party did. Not because of merit, but just because of partisanship. So you end up with a lot of programs that get started and after a while get repealed or maintained badly. This costs the country a lot of money. The ACA is a classical example. Instead of improving it or proposing a real replac…

In 1991 the ACA was the conservative proposal, but in 2010 when it was passed under the Obama administration it suddenly became communist marxism. Sigh.

It's known as Cleek's Law: "Today's Conservatism is the opposite of whatever Liberals want today, updated daily."

Re: IRS Direct File to open to all 50 states and D.C. for 2025 tax season

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> How volatile is this to the political winds? Very. Had the GOP won the senate in 2022, this would have probably been cut already. Depending on how this November goes the policy could definitely be reversed. > Something like this, in order to be permanent, needs congressional approval. This program did come from Congress. It was apart of the inflation reduction act.

It's a huge problem that when the opposition comes into power, they immediately try to revert and undermine what the previous party did. Not because of merit, but just because of partisanship. So you end up with a lot of programs that get started and after a while get repealed or maintained badly. This costs the country a lot of money. The ACA is a classical example. Instead of improving it or proposing a real replac…

In good faith, when have the Democrats have done this?

Re: IRS Direct File to open to all 50 states and D.C. for 2025 tax season

#77
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As a Brit it's baffling that this is even an issue. I filed my taxes online with HMRC for free this year (we call it Self Assessment), it took 20 minutes, and I received a 4 figure refund in ~2 weeks directly in to my bank account.

Taxes are simple if you have a single W2. People just don't like reading the piece of paper in front of them.

Re: IRS Direct File to open to all 50 states and D.C. for 2025 tax season

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Your company fucked up by not taking withholding from the bonus.

I do get a 20% bonus at this company and I think it is attributed to that. It was my first time getting that bonus. What do I even do here? Talk to HR? I don't think I can do anything and just suck it up and pay it and expect it next year? I dunno.

so you made 25% more than you usually do and are wondering why you have to pay more in tax?

Re: IRS Direct File to open to all 50 states and D.C. for 2025 tax season

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What is the income limit? The IRS's publication describing the program for 2023 lists a 1099-INT income limit but no W-2 income limit: https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p5917.pdf

"You can’t use Direct File if your wages are more than $200,000 ($160,200 if you had more than one employer)." from https://directfile.irs.gov/income

Thanks! It's also weird that that's buried on a webpage that they really don't want you to find anymore and not prominently displayed on the flyer they put out.

Re: IRS Direct File to open to all 50 states and D.C. for 2025 tax season

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"You can’t use Direct File if your wages are more than $200,000 ($160,200 if you had more than one employer)." from https://directfile.irs.gov/income

Thanks! It's also weird that that's buried on a webpage that they really don't want you to find anymore and not prominently displayed on the flyer they put out.

it might have been this limit only existed for last years pilot (but i guess still should have been in the flier)? i was also surprised i was having trouble finding reference to it but it's definitely a thing
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